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Holy shit! We're cheesing another thread?
Already?!
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(01-26-2019, 02:43 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 07:56 AM)LastPoet Wrote: Your pain is noted EvF. I liked you back there some years ago. Reasonable shy guy. Slowly you evolved into what you are now. You asked to be banned. Denied, we don't ban by request. You were offered to have your pass scrambled instead, to wich you wanted to do, self martyrizing jesus like exile style.
Well, you could contact Tibs. He is most reasonable, but I think the way you have been running your typing about him, and I have to say -not just- , as a self exiled member, why should we go against your will, to have pass scrambled?
(01-26-2019, 02:11 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: Oh look! A turd shitting on the thread!
<snip>
You wouldn't know objectivity if it hit you in the face. Utter, utter bullshit and nonsense on AF's part.).
'Kay, so, this thread is now about cheese. ("'Kay, so", get it, eh?)
Seriously, there's already been one thread needing cleanup due to AF.org drama spilling here. Keep this shit there.
Anyway, the only drama we want here is the drama that gruyere:
I really like that you kept the very best and wittiest two lines of my post intact though No sarcasm Good choice of parts to not snip!
I guess, Ultra-Concise Possible Future Evie, that may or may not one day exist, would literally only post the part you quoted and not post any of the other stuff that you snipped.
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(2) But you can't originate your original nature—it's already there.
(3) So, ultimately, you can't control your actions.
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(01-26-2019, 02:58 PM)Aliza Wrote: Holy shit! We're cheesing another thread?
Already?!
Yep, and surprise surprise, it's AF again, lol.
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(01-26-2019, 03:14 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 02:58 PM)Aliza Wrote: Holy shit! We're cheesing another thread?
Already?!
Yep, and surprise surprise, it's AF again, lol.
I haven't had a moment to look through the thread, so I better not find any reason to dig up avocado cheese.
You don't want me posting any avocado cheese up in these threads.
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(01-26-2019, 03:19 PM)Aliza Wrote: (01-26-2019, 03:14 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 02:58 PM)Aliza Wrote: Holy shit! We're cheesing another thread?
Already?!
Yep, and surprise surprise, it's AF again, lol.
I haven't had a moment to look through the thread, so I better not find any reason to dig up avocado cheese.
You don't want me posting any avocado cheese up in these threads.
It;s a bad whey to go, no matter how you slice it.
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(01-26-2019, 03:36 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 03:19 PM)Aliza Wrote: (01-26-2019, 03:14 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: Yep, and surprise surprise, it's AF again, lol.
I haven't had a moment to look through the thread, so I better not find any reason to dig up avocado cheese.
You don't want me posting any avocado cheese up in these threads.
It;s a bad whey to go, no matter how you slice it.
You Gouda be kidding me, more puns? I thought we could Brie better than this.
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(01-26-2019, 02:21 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 02:18 PM)LadyforCamus Wrote: (01-18-2019, 04:55 AM)TheGentlemanBastard Wrote: Not sure they're really past them. The site traffic is really slowing down. Used to be when you clicked on "today's posts" you'd get four or five pages. Now, I'm only getting 2.
That’s what happens when almost all of your resident theists abandon ship...
I can see why, though.
I wish we had SteveII back over here. He was, and is, one of the most reasonable ones.
Where did he go?
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Haven't seen him around here for a while. Assumed he went back over to AF.
Certain folks, such as Bucky Ball and JesseB, may have scared him off.
I basically told them that if they don't find people like SteveII reasonable (by theist standards) ... then they're not really gonna find pretty much any theists reasonable.
He's the most reasonable Christian debater I've come across on AF or AD (with exception of tackattack).
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(01-26-2019, 03:41 PM)Smercury44 Wrote: (01-26-2019, 03:36 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 03:19 PM)Aliza Wrote: I haven't had a moment to look through the thread, so I better not find any reason to dig up avocado cheese.
You don't want me posting any avocado cheese up in these threads.
It;s a bad whey to go, no matter how you slice it.
You Gouda be kidding me, more puns? I thought we could Brie better than this.
I guess you're feta'p already?
<smacks Merc on the bee-hind>
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(01-26-2019, 03:11 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 02:43 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 07:56 AM)LastPoet Wrote: Your pain is noted EvF. I liked you back there some years ago. Reasonable shy guy. Slowly you evolved into what you are now. You asked to be banned. Denied, we don't ban by request. You were offered to have your pass scrambled instead, to wich you wanted to do, self martyrizing jesus like exile style.
Well, you could contact Tibs. He is most reasonable, but I think the way you have been running your typing about him, and I have to say -not just- , as a self exiled member, why should we go against your will, to have pass scrambled?
(01-26-2019, 02:11 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: Oh look! A turd shitting on the thread!
<snip>
You wouldn't know objectivity if it hit you in the face. Utter, utter bullshit and nonsense on AF's part.).
'Kay, so, this thread is now about cheese. ("'Kay, so", get it, eh?)
Seriously, there's already been one thread needing cleanup due to AF.org drama spilling here. Keep this shit there.
Anyway, the only drama we want here is the drama that gruyere:
I really like that you kept the very best and wittiest two lines of my post intact though No sarcasm Good choice of parts to not snip!
I guess, Ultra-Concise Possible Future Evie, that may or may not one day exist, would literally only post the part you quoted and not post any of the other stuff that you snipped.
No editorializing in my <snip>, just grab the first and last lines instead of repeating a long post, is all.
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(01-26-2019, 03:19 PM)Aliza Wrote: I haven't had a moment to look through the thread, so I better not find any reason to dig up avocado cheese.
You don't want me posting any avocado cheese up in these threads.
But ... but ... but but but ... but ... but it sounds so delicious!
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(01-26-2019, 08:27 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: No editorializing in my <snip>, just grab the first and last lines instead of repeating a long post, is all.
Well, in that case, maybe I should just keep my intro and outros in the future ... if I'm thinking about mega-posting, lol.
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(3) So, ultimately, you can't control your actions.
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(01-26-2019, 09:27 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 08:27 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: No editorializing in my <snip>, just grab the first and last lines instead of repeating a long post, is all.
Well, in that case, maybe I should just keep my intro and outros in the future ... if I'm thinking about mega-posting, lol.
Not offering advice here, just saying that "backspace" is my friend. I get to write out everything I feel, and then take out the details so as to keep the flow going in the thread. If someone has a question, I've often already answered it in the content I've erased, but it's still in my head.
Usually, the more concise I am, the more likes I get ... and I really prefer a dagger to a battle-ax when it comes to writing. Less is almost always more.
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We need a meme with a luscious piece of cheese that says "You've been AF'ed".
Hell, we could even somehow merge that with a meme that says "I'm contacting the EU authorities!"
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(01-26-2019, 09:32 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 09:27 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 08:27 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: No editorializing in my <snip>, just grab the first and last lines instead of repeating a long post, is all.
Well, in that case, maybe I should just keep my intro and outros in the future ... if I'm thinking about mega-posting, lol.
Not offering advice here, just saying that "backspace" is my friend. I get to write out everything I feel, and then take out the details so as to keep the flow going in the thread. If someone has a question, I've often already answered it in the content I've erased, but it's still in my head.
Usually, the more concise I am, the more likes I get ... and I really prefer a dagger to a battle-ax when it comes to writing. Less is almost always more.
"Not offering advice" *offers advice*
Only teasing you, lol.
Yeah ... I mean ... the biggest problem with me is not the inability to edit stuff out (or to backspace) ... it's the difficulty with decision making. Never sure what to remove and what to keep. THAT'S where I struggle.
This doesn't just affect my talking and my writing ... it even affects my shopping. Seriously.
If you ever ended up in my town ... and in one of my local supermarkets. ... I'm the guy who is buying 10 varieties of everything because he can't decide on which to buy so he buys it all.
I'm serious about this. Not joking.
Btw, coming back to not knowing what stuff to leave out ... I GET that I'm supposed to take out the unimportant stuff and leave in the important stuff ... but that's just begging the question for me. You may then say "Well some of the stuff is clearly not important and is pretty irrelevant..." but to me NONE of it is really all that important. I don't take life very seriously. So then that doesn't help either! To me ... NOTHING anyone rights here is IMPORTANT. This place is a HOBBY. And this place can be INTERESTING ... and USEFUL to pass the time, to learn from others, to change one's mind, to get support from internet friends ... but I wouldn't describe ANY forum post as IMPORTANT. I don't take life, or myself, seriously. Just my opinions. (why my opinions? Because opinions are beliefs and beliefs hold everything together. As someone who previously suffered psychosis... my #1 priority is always to avoid sufferring further delusions/false beliefs).
Hopefully I have sufficiently psychoanalyzed myself so nobody else has to.
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(01-26-2019, 09:41 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-26-2019, 09:32 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (01-26-2019, 09:27 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: Well, in that case, maybe I should just keep my intro and outros in the future ... if I'm thinking about mega-posting, lol.
Not offering advice here, just saying that "backspace" is my friend. I get to write out everything I feel, and then take out the details so as to keep the flow going in the thread. If someone has a question, I've often already answered it in the content I've erased, but it's still in my head.
Usually, the more concise I am, the more likes I get ... and I really prefer a dagger to a battle-ax when it comes to writing. Less is almost always more.
"Not offering advice" *offers advice*
Only teasing you, lol.
Yeah ... I mean ... the biggest problem with me is not the inability to edit stuff out (or to backspace) ... it's the difficulty with decision making. Never sure what to remove and what to keep. THAT'S where I struggle.
This doesn't just affect my talking and my writing ... it even affects my shopping. Seriously.
If you ever ended up in my town ... and in one of my local supermarkets. ... I'm the guy who is buying 10 varieties of everything because he can't decide on which to buy so he buys it all.
I'm serious about this. Not joking.
Btw, coming back to not knowing what stuff to leave out ... I GET that I'm supposed to take out the unimportant stuff and leave in the important stuff ... but that's just begging the question for me. You may then say "Well some of the stuff is clearly not important and is pretty irrelevant..." but to me NONE of it is really all that important. I don't take life very seriously. So then that doesn't help either! To me ... NOTHING anyone rights here is IMPORTANT. This place is a HOBBY. And this place can be INTERESTING ... and USEFUL to pass the time, to learn from others, to change one's mind, to get support from internet friends ... but I wouldn't describe ANY forum post as IMPORTANT. I don't take life, or myself, seriously. Just my opinions. (why my opinions? Because opinions are beliefs and beliefs hold everything together. As someone who previously suffered psychosis... my #1 priority is always to avoid sufferring further delusions/false beliefs).
Hopefully I have sufficiently psychoanalyzed myself so nobody else has to.
This is why we're different. I'm a writer; I write as a hobby, and that includes rewrites, which naturally involves editing. And as most writers will tell you, "rewrite = original - 10%". In other words, find a way to boil it down so that every word counts. I do the same here, I think.
I view posting here as a hobby, sure, but I also view it as an exercise in writing, getting the most mileage out of the fewest words.
When it comes to writing, I prefer stabbing to bludgeoning.
[This post should have about 80 fewer words, but oh well.]
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I thought this thread had been cheesed earlier...
So I thought very Caerphilly about it, but couldn't add anything more.
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Okay I gotta admit you scared me a minute there. Now I see you said .com, NOT .org. I am still at both forums (as in here, and AF.org.) I can't lose another forum. My heart can't take it. Never even knew AF.com existed, so no loss for me there.
Where are we going and why am I in this hand basket?
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(01-26-2019, 11:00 PM)SYZ Wrote: I thought this thread had been cheesed earlier...
So I thought very Caerphilly about it, but couldn't add anything more.
There must be a lot of rustinu head. Puns are a dime a dozen.
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(01-26-2019, 02:11 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:
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(01-26-2019, 07:56 AM)LastPoet Wrote: Your pain is noted EvF. I liked you back there some years ago. Reasonable shy guy. Slowly you evolved into what you are now. You asked to be banned. Denied, we don't ban by request. You were offered to have your pass scrambled instead, to wich you wanted to do, self martyrizing jesus like exile style.
Well, you could contact Tibs. He is most reasonable, but I think the way you have been running your typing about him, and I have to say -not just- , as a self exiled member, why should we go against your will, to have pass scrambled?
Oh look! A turd shitting on the thread!
I've already been told my password will not be unscrambled so your claim that I can contact Tibs is a bluff. Unless he's suddenly changed his mind for no reason. And, at this point, I don't want it to be unscrambled anymore, you're too late anyway, because AD has grown now, it's more than active enough for me now, so I don't need anywhere else.
Yeah, you don't ban by request ... but apparently you don't scramble by request either ... but that was bullshit wasn't it? Despite complete lack of rule breaks or official warnings, because you're not as objective as you claim to be. So you're full of shit. You would never scramble by request before ... only when I insulted the bitch wife of the owner who then went ahead and acted even more of a bitch after I left.
You guys only liked me when I was "shy and reasonable", yeah, it's no surprise there either. "Shy and reasonable" means "too shy and "reasonable" to speak up against the kind of people we want around." You guys claimed you always needed alternative viewpoints but you drove all those people away.
I used to be "shy", alright. I also used to be mentally ill and suffer from a lot more anxiety. I used to be vulnerable, too. It's no surprise that you guys preferred me that way. Yuck.
You guys don't want me healthy. You want me to increase your forum activity levels and be your ideas guy but still be the "shy and reasonable" apologetic puppet that you want to have under control again quickly whenever I speak up against your shit.
P.S. I've made it quite clear since that I no longer even want my password unscrambled because AD is doing far too well (I thought it would take months just to get going and I wasn't even sure it would... but within weeks the activity was already rolling!)
So it's too late to have me back. Sorry. I know you guys now realize what kind of activity level you're missing and what a huge difference someone with my kind of presence can make on a website (near the beginning of AF I had 15% of the posts, long before Minimalst took over, (which was only after I left for years) ... I was also the first ever mod appointed to AF (I was also the person to suggest one of the most previously successful rules on AF that has now since been modified and bastardized). The activity levels on AF also increased greatly after I returned, after years of absence, and I went from 8000 posts to over 30,000 and behind Minimalist in a couple of years (after many years of absence)). ... but you had your chance and you blew it. Your begging won't do you any good, sorry. Bye!
P.P.S. My "pain" is noted? No it isn't, lol. Unless by "pain" you mean "pleasure". I'm happier than ever before. There's no "pain" anymore. I'm glad I'm not on AF anymore. Literally the only annoying part is not being able to PM some people over there to tell them that I'm okay. You could allow me a sock account for me to at least do that. Oh! I know why you won't! Because socking is against the rules! Despite the fact that I know that you've allowed a few people to have sock accounts, because I've seen it when I was on Staff, so that's bullshit.
Your comment that you "feel my pain" is not just a load of elephant shite (because there's no pain here), but it's disingenuous and passive aggressive ... because you don't "feel my pain" you just wanted to post about what a naughty boy I've been and how I might be able to get back in if I asked the big boss reasonbly and pinky promised never to "do it" again.
If you guys ever get anything from me it will be one sock account one day and I'll reveal myself before the 24 hours are over and it will be entirely for my self-amusement to get to 666 posts in under 24 hours to make myself laugh and show you guys what kind of presence you're really missing out on if you haven't realized it yet (your coming over here begging for me to contact Tibs for my "chance" to come back tells me taht you're already starting to realize it). I know that that will get me permabanned but it's utterly retarded for you to keep my account around if I cannot access it and you'll ban me if I make another account (even though you've let others make sock accounts, despite it supposedly being against the rules, including one of your own moderators. Not to mention that I even made a sock account already, to contact Losty when my Skype wasn't working, and you guys knew I did that because I told her and she's on Staff, and you just banned the sock instead of banning both accounts despite the fact that socking is supposed to be a permabannable offence for the sock and the main account. Talk about inconsistency. The reason was even listed as "Sock of Hammy" (which I know due to that bug that was spotted BY ME. I did your job better than you guys did, on that matter, even when I was scrambled LOL. I was the first person to notice that and I didn't even have an accessible account! Also, I didn't only log into Shell B. I logged into Shell B, Losty and CD but I see that it makes me look bad or stalky if you guys pretend it was only Shell B so I can understand why you want to lie about that. Although, it may not be a lie, Tibs could have already fixed the bug before he noticed. (I still took no actions though. I was just checking to see if the bug was just with Shell's account, or if it was just moderator accounts, or if it was all accounts).
So you're full of shit. I was supposed to be permabanned for that (when I made the sock account to contact Losty because my Skype wasn't working). That's supposed to be a permabannable offence (and apparently you guys don't scramble by request ... but then you did. Because I insulted the forum owner's wife (and he and her claim this isn't bias? Even you yourself said that Tibs probably won't listen because I've been "running" my "typing" about him. It's quite clear that it is personal and yet you guys pretend it isn't. You wouldn't know objectivity if it hit you in the face. Utter, utter bullshit and nonsense on AF's part. Even your own moderator, and my friend, LFC, I think nows that that is bias and she rightly stuck up for me and told Shell that before I insulted her she was in the wrong. She was. I just no longer gave a shit anymore, wasn't taking anymore of her crap, hence the insults (she followed me over onto another thread. I got told I was "trolling" and banned for a week for that sort of thing. But she can do it because she's the owner's wife. A load of shite is what it is. (And, yes, people don't bother to report her because there really is no point doing so and that is abundantly clear).
As for SteelCurtain ... he's a two-faced coward. The only two occasions he's spoken up publicly against me in criticism are when I wasn't around to defend myself. (1) When I was banned for a week (2) After he scrambled my password so I couldn't say all the shitty things he'd said to me which he conviently left out of his post complaining about me calling him the cunt that he absolutely is. Two-faced and a coward (and this guy was in the navy? LOL).
Tibs isn't too bad ... but I'm starting to think he deserves his wife. And not in a good way. They're a good match. Sadly. Both stuck-up motherfuckers.
As for you ... well, you're quite innocuous and pathetic by yourself. And genuinely nice when you're not being their dogsbody. That's what you are. Their dogsbody. If you ever stop being useful they'll discard you like a wet towel. But, for now, you're their dogsbody. You're out of control and terrible as a moderator ... but they have their uses for you (for now).
Valk, LFC, Losty, J a c k and Boru are all good moderators. As was Vorlie.
CD/Cathooloo ... great adminning skills and only an arsehole to me 50% of the time. Not so bad after all. But I've had better (his wife is a lot nicer than he is. Although, he'd probably agree with that).
I will say that CD/Cathooloo is an important part of the AF admin team ... and AF will go even more downhill if he retires.
P.P.P.S. I've burned my bridges and boyyyyyyyyy am I better off for it. Happy to burn them even more. It's good for me. You guys were bad for my mental health (the fact that you wanted to keep me "shy and reasonable" is no coincidence there ... (disgusting)).
Bye forever.
At least you got all that off your chest. *emperor palpatine smile*
What kind of cheese do you want?
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(01-27-2019, 05:36 PM)LastPoet Wrote: What kind of cheese do you want?
Gorgonzola but not today.
Probably not today anyway. Depends how hungry I get.
Have some Cambozola:
My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature.
(2) But you can't originate your original nature—it's already there.
(3) So, ultimately, you can't control your actions.
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(01-27-2019, 10:52 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: (01-27-2019, 05:36 PM)LastPoet Wrote: What kind of cheese do you want?
Gorgonzola but not today.
Probably not today anyway. Depends how hungry I get.
Have some Cambozola:
While mold is part of them french cheese, I can do you one better. Chulé cheese. Or to you ignorant Brits, cheese that smells like feet but darn good.
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(01-26-2019, 06:07 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote: Haven't seen him around here for a while. Assumed he went back over to AF.
Certain folks, such as Bucky Ball and JesseB, may have scared him off.
I basically told them that if they don't find people like SteveII reasonable (by theist standards) ... then they're not really gonna find pretty much any theists reasonable.
He's the most reasonable Christian debater I've come across on AF or AD (with exception of tackattack).
Reasonable, I guess but, not very interesting. At least when I PM'd him he was forthright about just being interested in improving his apologetics. He never seemed to try to understand points that didn't serve his narrative. So in the end I lost interest.
"Talk nonsense, but talk your own nonsense, and I'll kiss you for it. To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's.
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