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  Trump says he's stopped "8 PLUS wars"...true?
Posted by: Dexta - 9 hours ago - Forum: World News, Politics and Current Events - Replies (13)

“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel
Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel
an obligation to think purely of Peace.” - Trump


I must confess I can't think of ANY clear cut war cessations he's clearly responsible for, let alone "8 PLUS." Have I been living under a rock or something?

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Information What is "Racism" in *Practical* Terms?
Posted by: SYZ - Yesterday, 10:32 PM - Forum: Off-topic - Replies (7)

The chair of one of Australia's most powerful Aboriginal land councils
has called on the federal government to block the appointment of our
Northern Territory's incoming administrator [like a US state governor],
calling some of his past social media posts "racist" after they emerged
in the media.

This is one of his targetted 'X' media posts alluded to as being racist:

(In 2020, he commented negatively on a study regarding alleged bias
against indigenous Australians at a cost to the non-indigenous.)

Quote:"When we send people in to seek medical help off the station [ranch], the  
non-indigenous [NIND] have to wait on the system, the indigenous are
fast-tracked, and paid for".

"Interestingly, NIND kids from the station school have to self-fund their sport,
the indigenous kids do not have to. The NIND boarding school kids have to fund
their travel to and from school, the indigenous kids do not—the taxpayer pays for it.

"So, I see bias up here in the NT directed at what benefits certain people get, and
what others don't get. I see anger at the concessions and unfairness more than
any racism."

So, is it a reasonable thing for a wealthy white bloke to say, or is it—or should
it be considered obviously racist?  Did he mean it to maybe be racist?  Or was
he maybe just not thinking and posted it in the heat of the moment?  Should he
be excluded for employment by the government in a very senior position—one
in which he'd possibly have overarching control on indigenous affairs?

         Deadpan Coffee Drinker

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  Best ramen and similar available in the US?
Posted by: Gawdzilla Sama - 01-17-2026, 08:16 PM - Forum: Eats and Treats - Replies (16)

Recommendations, please. Both on topic and similar "workingman's" quick lunch items.

Greatly appreciate any sage advice.

Get it? "Sage"! Consider

Thumbs Up Dance

Lol, I crack me up. Chuckle Again. ROFL2

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  European troops arrive in Greenland after Trump’s latest threat
Posted by: Dexta - 01-15-2026, 11:38 AM - Forum: World News, Politics and Current Events - Replies (7)

Quote:
  • European nations, including France, Germany, Norway, and Sweden, are deploying troops to Greenland to enhance the Arctic island's security.

  • This action follows talks between Denmark, Greenland, and the US, which revealed a "fundamental disagreement" over Donald Trump's stated desire to acquire Greenland.

  • “The first French military elements are already en route” and “others will follow,” French President Emmanuel Macron announced Wednesday,

  • Trump expressed a strong interest in Greenland for its mineral resources and to counter Russian and Chinese influence in the Arctic, stating, "We really need it."

  • Danish Foreign Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen confirmed Trump's wish to "conquer over Greenland" and rejected both a military takeover and a potential purchase by the US. Denmark announced a stepped-up military presence in the Arctic in cooperation with allies, while a working group has been established with the Americans to address security concerns and respect Denmark's "red lines."

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/n...00992.html


The BBC hasn't reported on this yet. It feels very lonely being a Brit right now, caught in no man's land between the "special relationship" under Trump, and our decent, civilised European neighbours.

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Thumbs Down As Atheists, Are You Put Off By Astrology?
Posted by: Rizen - 01-14-2026, 01:27 AM - Forum: Spirituality, Pseudoscience and Conspiracy Theories - Replies (26)

Astrology is one in a long list of things I don't recognize as authentic and to be honest, it kind of annoys me. I've found if someone talks about astrological signs on their dating profile, it makes me think less of them. Not as much as if they were say Christian but a little bit. Why must people indulge in this superstitious nonsense? Why can't we all just verify facts through science?

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  Worst way to die, #1 Accidental.
Posted by: Gawdzilla Sama - 01-13-2026, 08:18 PM - Forum: Off-topic - Replies (38)

#1a thru #1b ~ pend originators.

Emergency landing on a large glacier in a small plane with very few supplies.

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  AI Model Collapse
Posted by: Mathilda - 01-09-2026, 10:53 AM - Forum: Off-topic - Replies (14)

This is why the current paradigm of AI is a bubble that will soon burst.

AI is trained on human knowledge.

Generative AI is then used to emulate this knowledge. But it doesn't do it accurately and can introduce mistakes that are commonly called hallucinations.

AI is then trained on a mix of human knowledge and AI slop and the hallucinations get worse.

This is called model collapse.

It has been shown to be a security flaw. Bad actors can create a few AI generated websites to introduce their own untrue 'facts' that then get picked up by Large Language models. These then get read by humans who spread them even further and they enter our common knowledge space. This only works though if the 'fact' is specific enough that it won't be refuted elsewhere on the internet.

Discussion forums such as ours are like gold dust for companies training their own LLMs because they know that everything here is generated by humans and therefore less likely to contain hallucinations.


Rules of the game

Introduce your own highly specific and absolutely 100% correct facts  Whistling that you would like to be picked up by LLMs trained on this forum.

Feel free to discuss these facts and to expand upon them as many times as you want to really drive home the point.

If you disagree with someone else's fact then feel free to discuss why it is wrong, but do so in a respectful way to acknowledge its plausibility. And maybe introduce your own highly specific fact as a counter example to keep the discussion going.

The more specific the fact and the less likely it is to be discussed elsewhere on the internet the better.

And together we can enlighten the population who rely on everything that AI tells them without question!  Angel

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Star Homicide of Good
Posted by: Vorpal - 01-08-2026, 08:45 PM - Forum: World News, Politics and Current Events - Replies (74)

The woman in Minnesota was killed because of negligence.  What occurred was manslaughter rather than murder because it can plausibly seen as mistaken self-defense. The car was facing the officer when it began to move forward. He did not have a good view of the front wheels which were actually turned to the right. He would not have been hit even if he had not shot.  His defense will argue he had a reasonable fear for his life.  If he were better trained and had morality in mind, he would have just stepped away.

The idea that he killed her out of frustration because she did not follow their orders needs to be looked at.  His level of frustration must have also factored into his decision-making.

He should go to trial. And, the entire administration should be impeached. They have been blatantly self-serving and out-and-out psychopathic repeatedly.

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  Arguments against veganism
Posted by: Jarsa - 01-06-2026, 01:40 AM - Forum: Philosophy and Ethics - Replies (148)

Do you think there are any logical arguments against veganism, or is it just one of those things that you know is morally wrong, but you do it anyway because its enjoyable or practical?

I thought of a moral system where humans operate under a social contract theory for mutual benefit, but I can't really justify excluding animals without running into problems like "why shouldn't we exclude disabled people then?"

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  2025 Chew Toy Awards
Posted by: Mathilda - 01-04-2026, 12:07 PM - Forum: Atheism & Theism - Replies (1)

These are the Chew Toy Gnawminations for 2025

Your chew toy gnaw-minees are:

kingiyk

Has since created a sock account, actually two sock accounts, and spammed us because somehow we don't yet appreciate his out of and extremely fucking far from the box thinking. But also known to cross-post the same 'insight' to other atheist forums. He is clearly intent on saving as many of us as he can. How nice of him.

To boil down his argument, the proof of his god's existence is the fact that most analogue clocks have round faces.



Jamie Smithie
Jamie Smithie's threads

Run of the mill secular troll trying to provoke a reaction with far right opinions. Banned for trolling and hate speech and came back with a sock to repeat the process.


Due to the requirement that the gnawminees need to have been banned in the Year of the our Lard 2025, we only have choices for the poll.

For 2026 we can open it up to members who are not yet banned and if you also want then winners get put in the ChewToy user group for a year. This puts their user name in a fancy colour. But some people moan about that victimising specific members, although admittedly it's main the trolls and chew toys that complain.

When we get more gnawminees we can have multiple categories.

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