A Naturalistic World

[vulcanlogician]

How can you say that? It seems like there is a principle at work in your system that you haven't elaborated upon. After all, "might makes right"... that's easy to understand. That means if the devil somehow became stronger than god, you'd say: "Time to switch sides."

Or if a person became stronger than God, "it's time to serve that person rather than God." After all, that person would pretty much qualify as a god at that point. A better god than God even.

Note that I previously said an almighty god, which as I use it precludes the possibility of being eclipsed in might by another being.

I don't know where you get the "for gods not people" clause though. Why doesn't "might makes right" translate over into the realm of people? Why shouldn't it?

Because local, temporal, relative might must eventually answer to eternal universal might.

I get that God's commands trumps all people's because of the power differential. And I get that God may sometimes command that you favor weak people over strong ones.

But what about issues where God hasn't laid down a law on the matter? In that case (if your principle is might makes right) then you ought to always side with the strongest person involved in any debate. After all, that's what "might makes right" entails. If you don't like THAT, than you have an issue with might makes right IN PRINCIPLE.

If God hasn't laid down a specific law, you do your best to interpret the situation according to Biblical principles.

Sure. But that sounds like religious apologetics to me. Can you defend "might makes right" in a godless world?

Like your theist friends, I find might makes right dissatisfying. Obviously THEY have a problem with it (and they believe in God). I ALSO have a problem with it, and I don't believe.

Seems to me, justification for the principle itself is needed... not just an explanation of how it can be congruent with religious belief.

So... use your imagination. In a godless universe, how could might make right?