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Big gods came after the rise of civilizations
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Big gods came after the rise of civilizations
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Quote: When you think of religion, you probably think of a god who rewards the good and punishes the wicked. But the idea of morally concerned gods is by no means universal. Social scientists have long known that small-scale traditional societies – the kind missionaries used to dismiss as “pagan” – envisaged a spirit world that cared little about the morality of human behaviour. Their concern was less about whether humans behaved nicely towards one another and more about whether they carried out their obligations to the spirits and displayed suitable deference to them.

Nevertheless, the world religions we know today, and their myriad variants, either demand belief in all-seeing punitive deities or at least postulate some kind of broader mechanism – such as karma – for rewarding the virtuous and punishing the wicked. In recent years, researchers have debated how and why these moralising religions came into being.

Now, thanks to our massive new database of world history, known as Seshat (named after the Egyptian goddess of record keeping), we’re starting to get some answers.

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Our statistical analysis showed that beliefs in supernatural punishment tend to appear only when societies make the transition from simple to complex, around the time when the overall population exceed about a million individuals.

We are now looking to other factors that may have driven the rise of the first large civilisation. For example, Seshat data suggests that daily or weekly collective rituals – the equivalent of today’s Sunday services or Friday prayers – appear early in the rise of social complexity and we’re looking further at their impact.

If the original function of moralising gods in world history was to hold together fragile, ethnically diverse coalitions, what might declining belief in such deities mean for the future of societies today? Could modern secularisation, for example, contribute to the unravelling of efforts to cooperate regionally – such as the European Union? If beliefs in big gods decline, what will that mean for cooperation across ethnic groups in the face of migration, warfare, or the spread of xenophobia? Can the functions of moralising gods simply be replaced by other forms of surveillance?

Even if Seshat cannot provide easy answers to all these questions, it could provide a more reliable way of estimating the probabilities of different futures.
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Big gods came after the rise of civilizations
What's great about all the research, neurological, anthropological, archeological into whence religion is that study by study it's assembling something steadfastly absent in theology:  a solid definition of just what a god is.  As it takes shape we can see already that however the religious envisioned their gods, they were so far afield they weren't even wrong.  Tongue
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Big gods came after the rise of civilizations
The transition from Hunting/Gathering to settled agriculture is generally considered to have led to the stratification of societies and the emergence of a priest class.  The purpose was social control not "morality."
Robert G. Ingersoll : “No man with a sense of humor ever founded a religion.”
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(04-08-2020, 04:45 PM)Minimalist Wrote: The transition from Hunting/Gathering to settled agriculture is generally considered to have led to the stratification of societies and the emergence of a priest class.  The purpose was social control not "morality."
Bimbo! The priests sucked up to the power elites and the power elites allowed the priest to goof off as long as they told the people to obey the power elites and pay their taxes.
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