(12-24-2018, 12:15 AM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(12-22-2018, 04:25 AM)jerryg Wrote: Do you think it is possible, that independent of human thinking, humans objectively have 0 value?
Possible? Yes. But I don't think it's a sound possibility. After all, even without humans around ... animal (and alien) suffering still matters.
I guess I get hung up on 'still matters.' Because I think 'to who?' But you're saying, I think, that there doesn't need to be a who to to to.