What should liberals do when an assassin sounds like them?

[Rizen]

I support people's rights to express themselves even if I think they're complete POS for doing it.

[Minimalist]

I take it that Australia has no "Freedom of Speech" gaurantee in whatever it calls its constitution?

[Fireball]

I take it that Australia has no "Freedom of Speech" gaurantee in whatever it calls its constitution?

The entire UK, Commonwealth(?) has no such guarantee. In some ways I agree, in others, I do not. I'd love it if those Nazi mofos like those dickheads marching and chanting, "Jews...will not replace us!" in South Carolina hadn't got away with that, as well as the whole 1/6 crowd. They ALL belong in jail.

[Rhythmcs]

The tiki torch march was perfectly legal speech. Jan 6 was an attempted insurrection.

[Minimalist]

I take it that Australia has no "Freedom of Speech" gaurantee in whatever it calls its constitution?

The entire UK, Commonwealth(?) has no such guarantee. In some ways I agree, in others, I do not. I'd love it if those Nazi mofos like those dickheads marching and chanting, "Jews...will not replace us!" in South Carolina hadn't got away with that, as well as the whole 1/6 crowd. They ALL belong in jail.

I don't trust the government to decide what can and can't be spoken.  It's bad enough most times but when you have a fuckhead like Fuckface in charge it is really dangerous.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Freedom of Speech" includes "Freedom to Respond/Counter to other's Speech". I'd rather not loose that.

[Fireball]

The tiki torch march was perfectly legal speech.  Jan 6 was an attempted insurrection.

I get that. It's (the march) legal here, but would it be legal in OZ?

[SYZ]

...He is currently being held in jail awaiting trial.  Meanwhile an Australian
paedophile and author of children’s books, Craig Silvey, has been released
on bail.     Strange days indeed.

What's strange about it? Good riddance to bad rubbish. Protesting antisemitism with a swastika is imbecilic in the extreme.

My reference to this case(s) being "strange" was the fact that a bloke
wearing an offensively printed and illegally symbolic T-shirt is/was
jailed, but yet a paedophile was still a free man, and not jailed.  My
concern is the disparity in the way we seem to view reprehensible
crimes and "merely" socially objectionable crimes.      Out of whack?   

[SYZ]

I take it that Australia has no "Freedom of Speech" gaurantee in whatever it calls its constitution?

Australia doesn't have a United States style of constitutional
right to "freedom of speech".

Our Constitution contains no explicit free speech clause like the
US 1st Amendment. What we have is a much narrower legal
doctrine called the implied freedom of political communication
which is primarily a restriction on government laws, rather than
any personal right.  No where in the Australian Constitution does
the phrase "free speech" occur.

[Deesse23]

A 68-year-old man has been arrested after wearing a T-shirt with
a swastika on it ....

In Germany you would get fined, and if you dont get the message and do it again...this will escalate, quickly. Why do we have this approach?

Fascism vs Democracy: Been there, done that, you got the bloody t-shirt now, not us.

[Paleophyte]

The freedom of speech is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong. The moment that you incite violence against others you cross that line.

[Paleophyte]

What's strange about it? Good riddance to bad rubbish. Protesting antisemitism with a swastika is imbecilic in the extreme.

My reference to this case(s) being "strange" was the fact that a bloke
wearing an offensively printed and illegally symbolic T-shirt is/was
jailed, but yet a paedophile was still a free man, and not jailed.  My
concern is the disparity in the way we seem to view reprehensible
crimes and "merely" socially objectionable crimes.      Out of whack?   

I'm seeing two counts of "possession of child exploitation material". No further description. Sounds like the prosecution didn't think he was a risk to the public.

[Rhythmcs]

The tiki torch march was perfectly legal speech.  Jan 6 was an attempted insurrection.

I get that. It's (the march) legal here, but would it be legal in OZ?

Nope.

[SYZ]

My reference to this case(s) being "strange" was the fact that a bloke
wearing an offensively printed and illegally symbolic T-shirt is/was
jailed, but yet a paedophile was still a free man, and not jailed.  My
concern is the disparity in the way we seem to view reprehensible
crimes and "merely" socially objectionable crimes.      Out of whack?   

I'm seeing two counts of "possession of child exploitation material". No further description. Sounds like the prosecution didn't think he was a risk to the public.

I guess until Silvey's case goes to court, the intricacies of his case will
be pretty obscure.  The three original charges included the "production"
of child exploitation material, as part of the distribution charge.  IMHO
he should've been held in remand, at least until his trial date in July.

His offences date back to 2022, so it's not like Silvey is a once-off or
"casual" sex offender.

And as far as him not being a threat to the public, would you—as the
parent of a nine-year-old daughter—be more than happy should Silvey
visit your daughter's school next week to promote one of his books?

[Paleophyte]

And as far as him not being a threat to the public, would you—as the
parent of a nine-year-old daughter—be more than happy should Silvey
visit your daughter's school next week to promote one of his books?

No, I wouldn't. But I think that there may be a middle ground between inviting him into the classroom and locking him away. He's out on bail, and normally the bail conditions in this sort of case would prohibit him from any contact with minors.