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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
Fine-tuning is no more evidence of creation than winning a lottery is evidence of a rigged game. It’s simply the consequence of probability played out on an astronomical scale.
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
And piano tuners are not responsible for the manufacture of the piano. Fine tuning and creation are two separate entities.
Even if there was a creator you'd be hard pushed to credit it with fine tuning, unless of course you think cancer and malaria are masterpieces.
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
i feel so bad all the time. god should never have let me be. what is the point of my never ending suffering. i don't want to live as i am.

god = infinate

universe = finite

god could goddamn well fine tune everything in the universe down to the quarks, etc.

there is no reason a loving god would not cure/prevent my chronic depression. doing so would not interfeir with my ability to chose jesus.

Xavier:

fuck you.

i hate you.

i want you to go to god.

get out of my life.
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
(08-20-2024, 03:06 PM)Xavier Wrote: It may surprise some to know that it is now openly admitted by Scientists, even Atheists, that the Universe is in fact finely tuned for life. Let's document this:

I. Physicist Paul Davies teaches: "There is now broad agreement among physicists and cosmologists that the Universe is in several respects ‘fine-tuned' for life”  (Cosmic Jackpot, Why our Universe is just right for life), while even 

Steven Hawking admits: "The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life." (A Brief History of Time).

Sir Martin Rees mentions 6 of these Cosmic Constants in the Book, Just Six Numbers: The Deep Forces that Shape the Universe. Sir Martin Rees is a leading researcher on Cosmic Evolution and renowned authority/expert in his field. (see https://www.amazon.com/Just-Six-Numbers-Martin-Rees/dp/0465036732)

II. Let’s formulate the Fine Tuning Argument in logical steps:
1.      The Life-Permitting Possible Configurations of the Universe are vanishingly small compared to the Life-Precluding ones (as amply admitted/documented by the above Scientists/Researchers).
2.      Thus, on Chance alone, it’s reasonable to say no life at all should ever have existed.
3.      Therefore, granted the existence of life, Design is a vastly superior explanation to chance, for the fact of why life exists at all in the first place. Chance just isn’t very good at creating life, it turns out, unfortunately for Atheists, because the life-permitting range is mind-bogglingly narrow.

III. Fine Tuning proving Intelligent Design demonstrated by an Analogy: Concluding Thoughts

An analogy: 10 sharp-shooters are shooting at you, while you’ve been lined up before them in a firing squad for various crimes. Now, on chance alone, it’s a vanishingly small likelihood that you will ever survive this, because they're all not going to miss by chance. Nevertheless, if it turns out that you did survive, then given the evidence of your survival, the most Logical Explanation is Intelligent Design - i.e. they designedly intended to miss, or were directed to miss by a Higher Power favourable to you. I trust the Analogy is clear.

Thoughts?
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
Succinct.

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I have an argument for everything happening through natural causes without a god.

I call it the universe.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results.
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The Scientific Fact of Fine Tuning: Incredible Evidence for Intelligent Design.
It's amazing how a ball rolling along a slope will always end up at the bottom. What are the chances of that when you consider all the other directions it could roll? It's intelligent rolling.
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