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03-26-2024, 08:34 PM
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(03-26-2024, 03:10 PM)Mindwave Wrote: Note: What I'm going to explain will lead up to the 4th reason being revealed: When it comes to controversial topics, there are experts in their specific fields. For example, there are paranormal experts (those who've done years of research regarding the paranormal)...
How can a person be an expert in a subject that has not been shown to exist?
Mindwave, you lack all the following skills:
1)Identifying links between ideas,
2)Analysing and evaluating arguments,
3)Identifying patterns and relationships,
4)Separating what’s necessary from what’s irrelevant in a discussion,
5)Identifying gaps in reasoning, and using these skills to form an argument, solve a problem, or reach a conclusion.
However, they can be taught.
Critical thinking
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(03-26-2024, 08:34 PM)Inkubus Wrote: However, they can be taught.
Critical thinking Can it really be taught? I mean I hear about people teaching it all the time; but I'm skeptical.
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(03-26-2024, 09:39 PM)rocinantexyz Wrote: (03-26-2024, 08:34 PM)Inkubus Wrote: However, they can be taught.
Critical thinking Can it really be taught? I mean I hear about people teaching it all the time; but I'm skeptical.
Good question and after reading This I'm not so sure.
Quote:Third, transfering critical thinking is also hard and needs practice. As I mentioned above, the transfer of these skills is notoriously difficult. Just because we know how to solve problems in one area does not mean we will naturally transfer and apply those skills to another area (See this post on analogical transfer). So once again, instruction needs to be deliberate and explicit.
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03-26-2024, 11:36 PM
My philosophy of good, bad, and emotions (rewritten)
(03-26-2024, 03:10 PM)Mindwave Wrote: Honestly, I don't know if any other philosophy will ever work for me because a life of emotional pleasure has always been the only life that works for me. So, I've given up on other philosophies.
So you are an Epicurean? That's fine.
However, that does make me wonder whether you enjoy typing up such long posts for this forum and receiving only limited positive feedback.
You might find a more typical approach more pleasing. Offer simpler assertions or questions for other posters to respond to.
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03-27-2024, 02:13 AM
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Mindwave states he's diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, I'll cut him some slack.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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03-28-2024, 01:26 AM
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Hey Mindwave, try coming back, in a new thread (or any thread), and just talking to us. Not about your philisophy, but about your life, what's going on day to day kind of talk.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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03-28-2024, 03:09 AM
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(03-26-2024, 08:34 PM)Inkubus Wrote: However, they can be taught.
Critical thinking
(03-26-2024, 09:39 PM)rocinantexyz Wrote: Can it really be taught? I mean I hear about people teaching it all the time; but I'm skeptical.
Well, I have a university credit in Critical Thinking, but I voluntarily signed up for the course. There are resources for people who want to learn those skills, but how do you teach someone who doesn't value them and doesn't want to learn?
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03-28-2024, 03:55 AM
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(03-24-2024, 03:28 PM)Mindwave Wrote: As for what's good or bad (what matters), according to my philosophy, people, places, and things subjectively matter, which means they only matter for those people they matter to. So, if something emotionally pleases one person and emotionally displeases another, then it would be good (matter) for one person (perceived as good [as mattering]), and be bad (matter) for another (perceived as bad [as mattering]).
Since people, places, and things subjectively matter, according to my philosophy, that means they don't matter by themselves, which means they wouldn't matter if they didn't matter to anyone. So, air and water don't matter for our survival by themselves, even though they're necessary to live. Lastly, I don't have a doctorate in psychology or extensive research on emotionless subjects.
I just have my personal experience and philosophical arguments to support my claims. I noticed that only my emotions make people, places, and things matter to me, and that only my pleasant emotions make them good (matter) in my eyes, and only my unpleasant emotions make them bad (matter) in my eyes. Based upon this personal experience, I've developed a philosophy (the one I've already shared).
OK, so once you pare this all down what you're left with isn't so much a philosophy as a simple statement. "Good and bad are subjective emotional states." That could be the basis of a philosophical discussion but it's a long way from being a philosophy. This would be where the philosophy begins. For example:
- Is it bad to do something that makes you feel a little bad if it will allow you to do something that will feel very good at a later date?
- Is it bad to do something that would make you feel a little bad if the alternatives would make you feel worse?
- Is it good to do something that makes you feel very good if it makes many others feel very bad?
I suspect that Consequentialism and Pragmatic Ethics would be up your alley.
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03-28-2024, 05:22 AM
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(03-28-2024, 03:55 AM)Paleophyte Wrote: (03-24-2024, 03:28 PM)Mindwave Wrote: As for what's good or bad (what matters), according to my philosophy, people, places, and things subjectively matter, which means they only matter for those people they matter to. So, if something emotionally pleases one person and emotionally displeases another, then it would be good (matter) for one person (perceived as good [as mattering]), and be bad (matter) for another (perceived as bad [as mattering]).
Since people, places, and things subjectively matter, according to my philosophy, that means they don't matter by themselves, which means they wouldn't matter if they didn't matter to anyone. So, air and water don't matter for our survival by themselves, even though they're necessary to live. Lastly, I don't have a doctorate in psychology or extensive research on emotionless subjects.
I just have my personal experience and philosophical arguments to support my claims. I noticed that only my emotions make people, places, and things matter to me, and that only my pleasant emotions make them good (matter) in my eyes, and only my unpleasant emotions make them bad (matter) in my eyes. Based upon this personal experience, I've developed a philosophy (the one I've already shared).
OK, so once you pare this all down what you're left with isn't so much a philosophy as a simple statement. "Good and bad are subjective emotional states." That could be the basis of a philosophical discussion but it's a long way from being a philosophy. This would be where the philosophy begins. For example:
- Is it bad to do something that makes you feel a little bad if it will allow you to do something that will feel very good at a later date?
- Is it bad to do something that would make you feel a little bad if the alternatives would make you feel worse?
- Is it good to do something that makes you feel very good if it makes many others feel very bad?
I suspect that Consequentialism and Pragmatic Ethics would be up your alley.
Feeling bad is bad (matters) for us, regardless of the situation, just as how seeing green is green for us, regardless of the situation. Also, if you do something that makes you feel good, but makes someone else feel bad, then doing it would be good (matter) for you and be bad (matter) for him/her.
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03-28-2024, 01:13 PM
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(03-28-2024, 05:22 AM)Mindwave Wrote: Feeling bad is bad (matters) for us, regardless of the situation, just as how seeing green is green for us, regardless of the situation. Also, if you do something that makes you feel good, but makes someone else feel bad, then doing it would be good (matter) for you and be bad (matter) for him/her.
bold mine: That is when you need to pause and think about whether your desire to feel good out ways the other persons feelings. Words and actions have consequences.
Look at it this way:
If I do a thing: First what will happen. Second won't happen.
If I don't do a thing: First what will happen. Second won't happen.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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03-29-2024, 05:46 PM
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(03-28-2024, 05:22 AM)Mindwave Wrote: (03-28-2024, 03:55 AM)Paleophyte Wrote: OK, so once you pare this all down what you're left with isn't so much a philosophy as a simple statement. "Good and bad are subjective emotional states." That could be the basis of a philosophical discussion but it's a long way from being a philosophy. This would be where the philosophy begins. For example:
- Is it bad to do something that makes you feel a little bad if it will allow you to do something that will feel very good at a later date?
- Is it bad to do something that would make you feel a little bad if the alternatives would make you feel worse?
- Is it good to do something that makes you feel very good if it makes many others feel very bad?
I suspect that Consequentialism and Pragmatic Ethics would be up your alley.
Feeling bad is bad (matters) for us, regardless of the situation, just as how seeing green is green for us, regardless of the situation. Also, if you do something that makes you feel good, but makes someone else feel bad, then doing it would be good (matter) for you and be bad (matter) for him/her.
You're devolving into tautology. "Feeling good feels good." Some people feel good about shooting up heroin. Others enjoy a little genocide. Can we agree that neither of those are good? On the flip side, many of us are less than enthusiastic about going to work. Sacrificing comfort pretty much has it right in the name. How are those bad?
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