Science Misuse

[no one]

There is no god. Your scripture is fucking nonsense. The buybull is the most ridiculous book ever written.

You also seem to have a problem understanding. Are you just stupid?

[Charlie24]

Since you have staked your eternal life on it, you had better be sure.

Rev. 20:14-15

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

You are a big f’n regret to the monster you worship Charlie 

Genesis 6:6
King James Version

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

How many times must I tell you that you have no idea what you're saying?

You have no idea how to even approach Scripture in its context.

Let me show you how to do that!!!!!!!!!!!

You must without failure take the whole context in when reading the Scripture, if you want to understand it. With you, Sam, it is very questionable that you want to understand.

Now let's take in the context to understand this Scripture.

Gen 6:5-7

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.


Man brought sin into the world and in doing so placed a plague on all of creation. Mans evil became so bad that all that was in mans mind was evil. 

This is when God destroyed man in the flood, with only Noah and his family found righteous before God.

In other words, God is starting over with His creation (man).


Now

[no one]

You are a delusional basketcase.

[1Sam15]

You are a big f’n regret to the monster you worship Charlie 

Genesis 6:6
King James Version

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

How many times must I tell you that you have no idea what you're saying?

You have no idea how to even approach Scripture in its context.

Let me show you how to do that!!!!!!!!!!!

You must without failure take the whole context in when reading the Scripture, if you want to understand it. With you, Sam, it is very questionable that you want to understand.

Now let's take in the context to understand this Scripture.

Gen 6:5-7

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.


Man brought sin into the world and in doing so placed a plague on all of creation. Mans evil became so bad that all that was in mans mind was evil. 

This is when God destroyed man in the flood, with only Noah and his family found righteous before God.

In other words, God is starting over with His creation (man).


Now

Your explanation still says you are a shit stain in yahwehs ghost eyes


Why did god choose a drunk for the incestuous orgy to start over expecting a better outcome, Charlie?

[Charlie24]

How many times must I tell you that you have no idea what you're saying?

You have no idea how to even approach Scripture in its context.

Let me show you how to do that!!!!!!!!!!!

You must without failure take the whole context in when reading the Scripture, if you want to understand it. With you, Sam, it is very questionable that you want to understand.

Now let's take in the context to understand this Scripture.

Gen 6:5-7

5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.


Man brought sin into the world and in doing so placed a plague on all of creation. Mans evil became so bad that all that was in mans mind was evil. 

This is when God destroyed man in the flood, with only Noah and his family found righteous before God.

In other words, God is starting over with His creation (man).


Now

Your explanation still says you are a shit stain in yahwehs ghost eyes


Why did god choose a drunk for the incestuous orgy to start over expecting a better outcome, Charlie?

Goes to show you that we believers are not perfect, WOW, what a concept!!!!

God saved Noah and his family for one reason only, they offered animal sacrifices before the Lord in faith, believing that the sacrifice represented the coming Messiah who would take away the sin and evil from those who believed God. 

But the ridding of all that sin will not be complete until the resurrection when man is changed from the mortal to the immoral state of being, then sin is no more, all traces of sin is gone forever.

Don't start on the poor animals given in sacrifice to a ruthless uncaring God, all those animal sacrifices were eaten by man.

[1Sam15]

Your explanation still says you are a shit stain in yahwehs ghost eyes


Why did god choose a drunk for the incestuous orgy to start over expecting a better outcome, Charlie?

Goes to show you that we believers are not perfect, WOW, what a concept!!!!

God saved Noah and his family for one reason only, they offered animal sacrifices before the Lord in faith, believing that the sacrifice represented the coming Messiah who would take away the sin and evil from those who believed God. 

But the ridding of all that sin will not be complete until the resurrection when man is changed from the mortal to the immoral state of being, then sin is no more, all traces of sin is gone forever.

Don't start on the poor animals given in sacrifice to a ruthless uncaring God, all those animal sacrifices were eaten by man.

You are still not showing where god said it fucked up saying it regrets creating you. 

It still thinks you are a stain in its ghost eyes.

[Minimalist]

Quite the  opposite, Sam.  At the end of Genesis 1, yahweh the asshole says:

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So much for this 'all-knowing' 'all-seeing' horseshit, eh?


A few chapters later he decided to drown every living thing except, as you say, one drunken fool.

[Charlie24]

Quite the  opposite, Sam.  At the end of Genesis 1, yahweh the asshole says:

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

So much for this 'all-knowing' 'all-seeing' horseshit, eh?


A few chapters later he decided to drown every living thing except, as you say, one drunken fool.

What God created was good, it was man who decided to ruin it!

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

[epronovost]

Don't start on the poor animals given in sacrifice to a ruthless uncaring God, all those animal sacrifices were eaten by man.

A vegan or vegetarian would still object to the morality that such slaughter was required by your God to avoid being murdered by his vengeful hands. From what I gathered, killing animals to please God was necessary to not be murdered by him.

Also if Jesus' death was necessary to save mankind from sin, why didn't Jesus sacrificed himself? Jesus was not a religious sacrifice. He was not executed by priests. He wasn't even executed by the Jews. He was crucified by the Romans. Jews did not crucify people.

[possibletarian]

Where did your godthing come from chuck?

I predict special pleading as your answer 


At some point in your gods history it was alone surrounded by nothing.

What did it use for its first creation?


What was the first thing your godthing created from no thing?

There are many things that the Scripture makes no attempt to explain, again, the human mind cannot process that.

God tells us, "In the beginning God created..." that is taken by faith not by sight. It is from the heart that man believes unto righteousness, not by sight.

That's why there should be a balance of science and Scripture to understand more clearly the truth.

How would you know if the human mind can process it or not, if it's not explained?

And faith, well you can believe anything with faith it's the worst indicator of what is and isn't true there is. But I do understand why you would have to use it.
And really, quoting scripture, then when asked to explain its workings you answer is 'Sorry my god created me to stupid to understand'

[possibletarian]

Quite the  opposite, Sam.  At the end of Genesis 1, yahweh the asshole says:




So much for this 'all-knowing' 'all-seeing' horseshit, eh?


A few chapters later he decided to drown every living thing except, as you say, one drunken fool.

What God created was good, it was man who decided to ruin it!

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

How would you know it was 'good' ?

[Charlie24]

What God created was good, it was man who decided to ruin it!

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

How would you know it was 'good' ?

One of the most basic principles in the believers heart and mind, that is instilled through His Word, is that God is perfect and all that He does is perfect, whether we as mortal man can understand it or not.

God gives us the information we need in order to enter into His future Kingdom. That Kingdom now is by faith, and those who hold to the faith to the end of this life will see His physical Kingdom.

The greatest in the history of boxing, tennis, baseball, football, etc, all seen themselves on that stage by faith. they believed they could rise to the top of the game, and so is the Kingdom of God.

[possibletarian]

How would you know it was 'good' ?

One of the most basic principles in the believers heart and mind, that is instilled through His Word, is that God is perfect and all that He does is perfect, whether we as mortal man can understand it or not.

God gives us the information we need in order to enter into His future Kingdom. That Kingdom now is by faith, and those who hold to the faith to the end of this life will see His physical Kingdom.

The greatest in the history of boxing, tennis, baseball, football, etc, all seen themselves on that stage by faith. they believed they could rise to the top of the game, and so is the Kingdom of God.

No they don't see themselves on stage through Faith, they may dream of it, but it's not faith, they have seen others stand there and have evidence it's possible. That is not faith it's a dream or aspiration, many see themselves there but don't make it. It's absolutely not an indicator of what's true.

[1Sam15]

Quite the  opposite, Sam.  At the end of Genesis 1, yahweh the asshole says:




So much for this 'all-knowing' 'all-seeing' horseshit, eh?


A few chapters later he decided to drown every living thing except, as you say, one drunken fool.

What God created was good, it was man who decided to ruin it!

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

So man wasn’t good.

No wonder god hates you genesis 6:6

[Charlie24]

What God created was good, it was man who decided to ruin it!

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

So man wasn’t good.

No wonder god hates you genesis 6:6

No, you miss the whole point of why the Garden of Eden is even mentioned in Scripture.

God gave man a choice (free will) from the very beginning to chose Him or not!

He created a heaven and a hell, and all men/women will choose of their own free will where they will go.

[Charlie24]

Don't start on the poor animals given in sacrifice to a ruthless uncaring God, all those animal sacrifices were eaten by man.

A vegan or vegetarian would still object to the morality that such slaughter was required by your God to avoid being murdered by his vengeful hands. From what I gathered, killing animals to please God was necessary to not be murdered by him.

Also if Jesus' death was necessary to save mankind from sin, why didn't Jesus sacrificed himself? Jesus was not a religious sacrifice. He was not executed by priests. He wasn't even executed by the Jews. He was crucified by the Romans. Jews did not crucify people.

I can tell you have certainly not read the Scripture, and I can see that me giving it to you would be to no avail.

[1Sam15]

So man wasn’t good.

No wonder god hates you genesis 6:6

No, you miss the whole point of why the Garden of Eden is even mentioned in Scripture.

God gave man a choice (free will) from the very beginning to chose Him or not!

He created a heaven and a hell, and all men/women will choose of their own free will where they will go.

God fucken forced Adam and Eve into existence and held a fucken gun to their head and said this is free fucken will, select!

You are really looking like god pick an idiot to spread its monstrous word wrapped in sheep’s cloathing Charles.

Are you in a hospice bed right now?

I would pamper my replies to you if you are.

[1Sam15]

You can send me a PM if you are in you last days

[Minimalist]

Of course, God knew what man would do, but still, what He created FOR man was good.

Actually, Charlie, that makes your 'god' out to be a complete shithead.  Of course....that explains why you worship him!

[Chas]

You think I became a Jewish theist admin of an atheist community having never heard of Rav Gamaliel? (Ie: I can argue my position just fine.)

We know Saul of Tarsus wasn't  his student. Like maybe he attended an Aish lecture by Gamaliel, but Gamaliel never heard of Saul.

OK, the New testament must be a myth then.

Probably best for you to continue to ignore it.

Works for me.

As it has for the last 60 years.

[Chas]

I don't hate you Charlie.  I don't hate anyone.  I just think you are a certain type of person.   It seems that Christianities such as yours tend to select out such types.

You won't admit it here as many other won't, but yes, you hate me and what I stand for.

That is to be expected from the those who go through this life without Christ.

I take no offence at your thoughts of me, you can't help but feel that way.

How dare you tell others how they feel or what they think, you presumptuous twit?

Why don't you take your twaddle elsewhere, soon?

[Chas]

A poor workman blames his tools.

While the Atheist finds fault in The God they claim doesn't exist.

That is absurd.

[Chas]

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