Funny trivia about original sin

[Charlie24]

Why was that chick turned to salt, if she had free will? What about those boys that were expressing their freewill while mocking and ridiculing a bald man. Weren't they punished for that? Did they all get to rot in hell, getting punished again?

If that first commandment forbids other gods to be worshipped, why are there so many? And why did a good number get worshipped before godiboi made its grand entrance?

Still waiting on the proof.

She turned into a pillar of salt because when she looked back at Sodom and Gomora, she revealed where her true heart was.

The young boys that insulted the prophet of God also insulted God. God, knowing all things, knew what they would be, how they would persecute his prophets, He knew the wickedness that would result from them, so He did them a favor and took them out of this world, as He did many others throughout Scripture.

There is only one God, He was established in the Garden of Eden, but fallen man in his wickedness chose to rebel against Him and create there own God. It's the same today, those who rebel against God create their own God, usually it's themselves.

There is something that must be understood concerning the Old Testament vs the New. Before Christ came into this world (the Old Testament) the sin debt of man had not been paid, so God reacted accordingly to that sin, through His foreknowledge. But when Christ atoned for all sin (the New Testament) His wrath was appeased toward sin.

What the Old Testament predicted to come, has come, and through the knowledge of the Cross of Christ, God has called all men to repentance. 

This is where Dispensations come into the picture. The periods of time throughout history where God dealt with man according to their knowledge of Him at that particular time. For example, God deals much differently with us in this dispensation of grace than He did with those under the dispensation of the Law of Moses some 2500 years ago. And He dealt differently with those before the Law, who had even less knowledge.

[Charlie24]

You're not even trying to get the point of all of this! The free will of man had to run it's course to ensure man would choose Christ of his own will. Otherwise, just a herd of robots following Christ.

It's obvious you have no intensions of grasping a better understanding of Scripture. You will continue to have ears without hearing, eyes without seeing.

Adam and Eve did not have free will!

They did not have all the knowledge to make a free will decision. 


Why can’t you see that?

Why can't you see that they freely chose to believe the Serpent over God, even after they had been told not to do it?

They straight up chose to disobey God, they had no excuse but to blame the Serpent and each other.

[SeaPigeon]

How come God is ok with men offering out their virgin daughters like sweeties?

Your God turns a blind eye to all manor of immoral behaviour but punishes people for minor stuff like turning around.

Control freak doesn't even come close.

[Charlie24]

How come God is ok with men offering out their virgin daughters like sweeties?

Your God turns a blind eye to all manor of immoral behaviour but punishes people for minor stuff like turning around.

Control freak doesn't even come close.

I'm not sure what you mean by, "How come God is ok with men offering out their virgin daughters like sweeties?"

You will have to clarify that for an answer.

[Charlie24]

All the miracles were performed by the Holy Spirit through Christ. You know, the Holy Spirit is God also!

Are miracles a violation of humans free will?

Are miracles just god changing it’s mind/plan?

Or is god making you think miracles are just majik shit?

The miracles performed by the Holy Spirit through Christ were meant to prove who He was. It also showed the compassion that God felt for his chosen people in their sin.

He came for only one purpose, to deliver man from his sins as our Substitute.

He took upon Himself what we deserved.

[brewerb]

Good post! You bring up the importance of proper hermeneutics in Scripture study. Most false doctrine comes from improper hermeneutics, along with a lack of knowledge concerning the New Covenant, which in reality the understanding of the Cross of Christ.

It's the context of Scripture that reveals the truth. but one must take a proper approach to that context.(hermeneutics). There must be rules that apply across the board to properly find the truth.

Of course the unbeliever will accuse the believer of not having the truth, or at least try to show doubt. That's why Christ charged each individual person with the task of finding the truth for themselves.

In other words, each individual person will be held accountable for what they believe!

bold mine: Where did your diety write these rules? Better yet, why would it write a book where 'rules' are necessary? If I'm correct you are talking about an all knowing being.

Hold on, i just looked it up, believers wrote the rules of hermeneutics. How convenient for the believers.

[1Sam15]

Adam and Eve did not have free will!

They did not have all the knowledge to make a free will decision. 


Why can’t you see that?

Why can't you see that they freely chose to believe the Serpent over God, even after they had been told not to do it?

They straight up chose to disobey God, they had no excuse but to blame the Serpent and each other.

They fucken didn’t know right from wrong without eating the fruit.


Why can’t you comprehend that?

[1Sam15]

How come God is ok with men offering out their virgin daughters like sweeties?

Your God turns a blind eye to all manor of immoral behaviour but punishes people for minor stuff like turning around.

Control freak doesn't even come close.

I'm not sure what you mean by, "How come God is ok with men offering out their virgin daughters like sweeties?"

You will have to clarify that for an answer.

You clearly are ignorant to you yahweh and it user manual.

[Charlie24]

Good post! You bring up the importance of proper hermeneutics in Scripture study. Most false doctrine comes from improper hermeneutics, along with a lack of knowledge concerning the New Covenant, which in reality the understanding of the Cross of Christ.

It's the context of Scripture that reveals the truth. but one must take a proper approach to that context.(hermeneutics). There must be rules that apply across the board to properly find the truth.

Of course the unbeliever will accuse the believer of not having the truth, or at least try to show doubt. That's why Christ charged each individual person with the task of finding the truth for themselves.

In other words, each individual person will be held accountable for what they believe!

bold mine: Where did your diety write these rules? Better yet, why would it write a book where 'rules' are necessary? If I'm correct you are talking about an all knowing being.

Hold on, i just looked it up, believers wrote the rules of hermeneutics. How convenient for the believers.

The rules of hermeneutics were created by man because of mans false prophecy. Of course the root of this false prophecy is Satan. He doesn't care what you believe as long as it's not the truth.

The Scripture tells us repeatedly to beware of false doctrine. Proper hermeneutics is one of the safe-guards used to filter out the false. I suggest you look it up and see that there are different rules of hermeneutics used by different beliefs.

So what can you do to find the truth? Here's a hint, a promise from God!

Proverbs 1:23

"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you."

It will cost you something to receive His truth! Again, to separate the mere curious from the believing.

[pattylt]

I’m just catching up on this discussion and, for now, two points I want to make…

Of course we are fed and nourished by the earth…we evolved here. I doubt another Goldilocks planet would nourish us as well. Your comment about nature meeting all our needs is backwards.

When you type The Son of God you are changing the Hebrew meaning. Hebrews often called themselves the son (or sons) of god. It meant a human being. Christian’s changed the meaning to fit Jesus. Just like they changed the meaning of messiah to Messiah giving it a new meaning it never had previously. Have you never studied Judaism? The OT is their book after all and knew what it meant. Christian’s reinterpreted so much of it to pigeon hole Jesus into stories that were NEVER about him.

[Charlie24]

Why can't you see that they freely chose to believe the Serpent over God, even after they had been told not to do it?

They straight up chose to disobey God, they had no excuse but to blame the Serpent and each other.

They fucken didn’t know right from wrong without eating the fruit.


Why can’t you comprehend that?

What did Eve say to the Serpent when he tempted her to eat the forbidden fruit?

Gen. 3:1-3

"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

She knew exactly what she was doing, and made the choice to disobey God!

[1Sam15]

bold mine: Where did your diety write these rules? Better yet, why would it write a book where 'rules' are necessary? If I'm correct you are talking about an all knowing being.

Hold on, i just looked it up, believers wrote the rules of hermeneutics. How convenient for the believers.

The rules of hermeneutics were created by man because of mans false prophecy. Of course the root of this false prophecy is Satan. He doesn't care what you believe as long as it's not the truth.

The Scripture tells us repeatedly to beware of false doctrine. Proper hermeneutics is one of the safe-guards used to filter out the false. I suggest you look it up and see that there are different rules of hermeneutics used by different beliefs.

So what can you do to find the truth? Here's a hint, a promise from God!

Proverbs 1:23

"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you."

It will cost you something to receive His truth! Again, to separate the mere curious from the believing.

Again I didn’t ask to be born! Why is it reguired of me to pay for this monsters love?

[1Sam15]

They fucken didn’t know right from wrong without eating the fruit.


Why can’t you comprehend that?

What did Eve say to the Serpent when he tempted her to eat the forbidden fruit?

Gen. 3:1-3

"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

She knew exactly what she was doing, and made the choice to disobey God!

Did she know it was EVIL to disobey god before eating the knowledge of EVIL fruit?

Eve wasn’t invented when god only told Adam to not eat of the fruit.

[Charlie24]

The rules of hermeneutics were created by man because of mans false prophecy. Of course the root of this false prophecy is Satan. He doesn't care what you believe as long as it's not the truth.

The Scripture tells us repeatedly to beware of false doctrine. Proper hermeneutics is one of the safe-guards used to filter out the false. I suggest you look it up and see that there are different rules of hermeneutics used by different beliefs.

So what can you do to find the truth? Here's a hint, a promise from God!

Proverbs 1:23

"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you."

It will cost you something to receive His truth! Again, to separate the mere curious from the believing.

Again I didn’t ask to be born! Why is it reguired of me to pay for this monsters love?

Well, since you see Him as a monster, don't worry about it. Just go on your merry way, soon enough it will all be known to you from a higher power than myself.

[1Sam15]

Again I didn’t ask to be born! Why is it reguired of me to pay for this monsters love?

Well, since you see Him as a monster, don't worry about it. Just go on your merry way, soon enough it will all be known to you from a higher power than myself.

Did I have any free will choice to be born?

[1Sam15]

Again I didn’t ask to be born! Why is it reguired of me to pay for this monsters love?

Well, since you see Him as a monster, don't worry about it. Just go on your merry way, soon enough it will all be known to you from a higher power than myself.

What do you call a god that creates only to torture?

[Charlie24]

Well, since you see Him as a monster, don't worry about it. Just go on your merry way, soon enough it will all be known to you from a higher power than myself.

Did I have any free will choice to be born?

God is giving you the opportunity to be a king in His Kingdom, and you are throwing it away!

We as humans cannot even reason within our minds what God has prepared for us. 

1 Cor. 2:9

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." 

 
He wants you to have this and only asks that you repent of your sins and believe in His Son. That's why you were born!

[Dānu]

I'm sure somewhere along here we're going to be introduced to a secret handshake which is required to make a legitimate acquaintance with the Holy Spirit. It's amazing how mystery cults are all the same, populated with shibboleths and secret rituals which ostensibly provide a gateway to the penetration of these mysteries, but rather transparently instead provide a way to distinguish the in-group from the out-group to provide a pretext for shitting on those who don't belong to your club.

[Charlie24]

I'm sure somewhere along here we're going to be introduced to a secret handshake which is required to make a legitimate acquaintance with the Holy Spirit.  It's amazing how mystery cults are all the same, populated with shibboleths and secret rituals which  ostensibly provide a gateway to the penetration of these mysteries, but rather transparently instead provide a way to distinguish the in-group from the out-group to provide a pretext for shitting on those who don't belong to your club.

No secret hand shakes with God, only the entrance of His Spirit into the heart to help you on your new journey with Him.

And what a journey it is!

[Charlie24]

What did Eve say to the Serpent when he tempted her to eat the forbidden fruit?

Gen. 3:1-3

"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."

She knew exactly what she was doing, and made the choice to disobey God!

Did she know it was EVIL to disobey god before eating the knowledge of EVIL fruit?

Eve wasn’t invented when god only told Adam to not eat of the fruit.

Did you not read the Scripture where she told the Serpent they would die if they ate of that fruit. No question about it, she knew. It is believed but not recorded in Scripture that Adam told her, or maybe God told her but not recorded.

Regardless of this, she knew exactly what she was doing.

[Charlie24]

Well, since you see Him as a monster, don't worry about it. Just go on your merry way, soon enough it will all be known to you from a higher power than myself.

What do you call a god that creates only to torture?

I think you left out the part where man chose to rebel against God and received the exact punishment promised.

But as an unbeliever you are playing your part in your own rebellion against God, understandable.

[1Sam15]

What do you call a god that creates only to torture?

I think you left out the part where man chose to rebel against God and received the exact punishment promised.

But as an unbeliever you are playing your part in your own rebellion against God, understandable.

Do you have children?

If you do, why did you choose to bring life into such a fucked up world?

[Charlie24]

I think you left out the part where man chose to rebel against God and received the exact punishment promised.

But as an unbeliever you are playing your part in your own rebellion against God, understandable.

Do you have children?

If you do, why did you choose to bring life into such a fucked up world?

Yes, I have 2 kids, boy and a girl, both grown and gone, but not that far away.

I've tried to instill in them human morals, as I'm sure most of you have, but I did my best to take it a step further.

I tried to relate how to live in this messed up world from God's perspective.

I'm sure I could have done better, but they still at least listen to what I have to say about it.

The Scriptures teaches that is is a blessing and an honor that God has placed in your care the nurturing of His children.

You know, we are to raise our children in the admonition of the ways of the Lord.

I'm still working on that with my kids, as the Lord has also been working on me for a long time now. 

All of us believers are just a work in progress and will be until He calls us home.

[SeaPigeon]

Charlie can you respond to my question?

I'll ask it again... How could Adam have responded differently to a command from God when he knew nothing. He didn't even know that he was naked.

[brewerb]

bold mine: Where did your diety write these rules? Better yet, why would it write a book where 'rules' are necessary? If I'm correct you are talking about an all knowing being.

Hold on, i just looked it up, believers wrote the rules of hermeneutics. How convenient for the believers.

The rules of hermeneutics were created by man because of mans false prophecy. Of course the root of this false prophecy is Satan. He doesn't care what you believe as long as it's not the truth.

The Scripture tells us repeatedly to beware of false doctrine. Proper hermeneutics is one of the safe-guards used to filter out the false. I suggest you look it up and see that there are different rules of hermeneutics used by different beliefs.

So what can you do to find the truth? Here's a hint, a promise from God!

Proverbs 1:23

"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you."

It will cost you something to receive His truth! Again, to separate the mere curious from the believing.

OMFG, I no longer have time for your dribble.