Prerequisite for apologetic posters

[Bucky Ball]

Unless you can tell us what would derail your faith, inasmuch as you are using "arguments", ... you can stop before you start.
Unless you tell us at the outset, what would move you to unbelief, which is one of the assumptions you use, ... ie those arguments can move US to belief, what are the arguments that could move YOU to unbelief ?
Be very specific. If you don't or can't, your bullshit, like that of SteveII , is simply dismissed as the crap it is.

In other words, justify the validity of your methodology.
If that includes an appeal to any sort of Logic, justify your use of whichever human Logic you use, and how you know that system applies to your gods.
Post your study results.

This is not my question. Dr. Sean Carroll asked it of L'il Billy Craig, 10 years ago.
There has never been a response.

[Minimalist]

You're giving them waaaayyyy too much credit, Buck.

[Bucky Ball]

In other words, prove to us you actually take your own methodology seriously,
LMAO. Never going to happen.

[Dancefortwo]

In other words, prove to us you actually take your own methodology seriously,
LMAO. Never going to happen.

Who's Billy Craig?  

[Minimalist]

I'm not sure that this constitutes a "methodology."




They can never get far beyond this happy horseshit.

[pattylt]

In other words, prove to us you actually take your own methodology seriously,
LMAO. Never going to happen.

Who's Billy Craig?  

William Lane Craig.

[Dancefortwo]

Who's Billy Craig?  

William Lane Craig.

Oh.  

[brewerb]

You're not fooling me at all Bucky. I know you like your chew toys. 

[Bucky Ball]

You're not fooling me at all Bucky. I know you like your chew toys. 

I love me some chew toys. They are very important. We get a lot.
All the guests get to see how easily their crap is debunked.
But those who profess to be "professional" apologists get extra attention, especially those who put 90% of the forum on ignore, as they post *inconvenient* questions and replies.

[Cavebear]

You're not fooling me at all Bucky. I know you like your chew toys. 

I love me some chew toys. They are very important. We get a lot.
All the guests get to see how easily their crap is debunked.
But those who profess to be "professional" apologists get extra attention, especially those who put 90% of the forum on ignore, as they post *inconvenient* questions and replies.

I only have one person on "ignore". Can you guess who it is?

[Bucky Ball]

In other words, prove to us you actually take your own methodology seriously,
LMAO. Never going to happen.

Who's Billy Craig?  

Billy Craig is a well known US apologist, who runs a website called "Reasonable Faith"
He can't say which or why he uses one of the logics, just as Stevie.

[Bucky Ball]

I love me some chew toys. They are very important. We get a lot.
All the guests get to see how easily their crap is debunked.
But those who profess to be "professional" apologists get extra attention, especially those who put 90% of the forum on ignore, as they post *inconvenient* questions and replies.

I only have one person on "ignore". Can you guess who it is?

Oh really ?
Did you not tell us a couple days ago that you were not going to put me on ignore ?
Have you considered getting a cognitive exam ?

So you are implying I'm on ignore, and yet here you are replying to something I posted.
Obviously you are lying and I am NOT on ignore, as you posted this.
You are clearly very very confused.

[Cavebear]

Who's Billy Craig?  

Billy Craig is a well known US apologist, who runs a website called "Reasonable Faith"
He can't say which or why he uses one of the logics, just as Stevie.

I love the way theists refer to knowing the truth "within their hearts". Are they aware the heart has no actual brain cells for "knowing"? And they sure prove that.

Actually they might sense that in some way. Which is why they don't refer to "brain" very often. LOL!

[Cavebear]

I only have one person on "ignore".  Can you guess who it is?

Oh really ?
Did you not tell us a couple days ago that you were not going to put me on ignore ?
Have you considered getting a cognitive exam ?

So you are implying I'm on ignore, and yet here you are replying to something I posted.
Obviously you are lying and I am NOT on ignore, as you posted this.
You are clearly very very confused.

Do you walk into tree-branches in the dark or fall into ravines often Bucky? LOL! I was not referring to you. You are not on "ignore" (by me anyway) . I wouldn't do that to you (yet).

I'm sorry Bucky, I did actually invite that response from you to make a point. You are VERY prickly and self-focussed. But you aren't the one. Do you want to make a 2nd guess?

Think about who I would put on "ignore".

[pythagorean]

Dr. Sean Carroll

You mean the guy talking here with the acapellascience dude? 

Or is there another one?

Sean Carroll & Tim Blais: Physics Conundrums and the Big Picture | Science Life

This has got to be one of my all-time favourite conversations. CalTech cosmologist Sean Carroll and I sat down over Skype and spent an hour chewing through some of the deepest questions of physics.. and then some! Things like.. Why does time run forward? Is matter fundamentally made of particles or waves? (Hint: It's waves. Waving fields, like stretched rubber sheets.) How can we understand the bizarre symmetries of the nuclear forces? What's the right interpretation of quantum mechanics, and why does it seem to work at more levels of analysis than it has a right to? Why do we say that the Many Worlds hypothesis is actually simpler than alternatives? Is there a bottom layer to reality? Does "turtles all the way down" make sense? How should we think about systems arising from the complexity of physics, like chemistry, biology, psychology, philosophy, morality? Can you get an "ought" from an "is"? Why does matter bend space-time? And why do so many physicists seem to hate philosophy?



Entropic Time (Backwards Billy Joel Parody) | A Capella Science

[pythagorean]

I love me some chew toys. They are very important. We get a lot.
All the guests get to see how easily their crap is debunked.
But those who profess to be "professional" apologists get extra attention, especially those who put 90% of the forum on ignore, as they post *inconvenient* questions and replies.

I only have one person on "ignore".  Can you guess who it is?

Admittedly, inconvenient questions and responses can be a problem at times.

I'm not really good at guessing games, but I have those coordinates on Google Earth that you wanted, for the center of the world, the Axis Mundi, where heaven meets earth and hell.


Google Earth


Google Earth


Google Earth


If you are on an i-phone, it might ask you if you want to install Google Earth Pro for free. The correct answer is "yes".

On a pc, they'll likely just open in your browser.

There's nothing like being able to set the earth spinning with your thumb when you are feeling powerless.

It'll make you feel absolutely Omnipotent!

You know the old saying:

"Don't use coordinates unless someone holds a pickle to your head."

[pythagorean]

Have you considered getting a cognitive exam ?

You are clearly very very confused.

You love you some chew toys, don't you?

But don't you worry about what it does to the intellectual level of this forum?

Or perhaps you are purposely trying to chase the nerds away by acting like a bully?

NERDS: A Manifesto | A Capella Science