Boss Moves in Atheist Debates

[pythagorean]

OK, so I was watching an Atheist Debate on YouTube, between an American and a European.

And the first thing that I noticed was how the American immediate pressed his Home Court Advantage to put the European on the defensive.

That was a Boss Move!

Sure, the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong, but let's get real. Dude is an astrophysicist or something like that. (Certainly not a Historian or an Anthropologist, who might give you a better approximation.) In his culture, he probably thinks that being a couple of light-years off is just experimental error. And besides, he's just another atheist like the rest of us. It's not like he has a direct line to any spiritual beings or something. (And his line certainly isn't ringing off the hook whenever there's a soccer game!)

But he got the frickin' continent right! That's pretty impressive for an astrophysicist, when you think about it. 

That European probably thinks that the center of the world is in Europe. (The Vatican, perhaps?)

He was wrong.

The center of the world is here in America. 

(And I just happen to know the coordinates of the center of the world on google earth, by the way, but that's another matter. You know what they say: "Don't use coordinates unless somebody holds a pickle to your ear.")

Go Team!!!

America!!!



Richard Dawkins Conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson at Hayden Planetarium




It's time for the Hymn of Faith and Happiness!

Himno de fe y alegría - Grupo Niche - La mejor versión - América de Cali 2016



América de Cali Campeón liga águila 2019-2 (Himno de Fe y Alegría-Grupo Niche y Rojo-Son de Cali)

[pythagorean]

By the way, for those who have never heard of Cali.

Please keep this in mind.

While New York may be the capitol of the world, and Paris may be the city of lights, Cali is a branch of heaven!

So sayeth Grupo Niche!

Cali Pachanguero, Grupo Niche - Video Oficial



And this is how they dance in Cali! (Willy Garcia used to be in Grupo Niche, so he knows!)

Willy Garcia - Así Es Que Se Baila En Cali (Video Oficial) | Salsa Para Bailar

[pythagorean]

@Cavebear

@Minimalist

Your move.

There's no shame in conceding, but if you hold a pickle to my head, I might just give you the coordinates on google earth...lol.

In my culture, there's a protocol for this sort of thing.



GRUPO NICHE MI MACHETE

[airportkid]

The settlement of Bali, Colombia, pop. 2.2M has recently been discovered to exhibit a new cultural habit only possible within the last decade or so - its inhabitants interact and communicate exclusively by finding and displaying you tube videos to speak for them.  It has elevated the "mobile" from personal appliance to indispensable anatomical appendage, putting measurable pressure on semi-conductor factories to incorporate hospitals and clinics in their customer support infrastructure.  You tube shares on international markets are on par with industry giants such as Coca Cola and Hong Kong Baubles Ltd.

I'd post a you tube video but they appear to have been all used up.

[pythagorean]

The settlement of Bali, Colombia, pop. 2.2M has recently been discovered to exhibit a new cultural habit only possible within the last decade or so - its inhabitants interact and communicate exclusively by finding and displaying you tube videos to speak for them.  It has elevated the "mobile" from personal appliance to indispensable anatomical appendage, putting measurable pressure on semi-conductor factories to incorporate hospitals and clinics in their customer support infrastructure.  You tube shares on international markets are on par with industry giants such as Coca Cola and Hong Kong Baubles Ltd.

I'd post a you tube video but they appear to have been all used up.

 
The center of the world is not "Bali", any more than it is Cali.

Do you have the coordinates for the center of the world or do you not?

And yes, I'm holding a pickle to your head. 

[Inkubus]

Boss move? They say that a lot in Manchester Florida then?

Dude will you please put some effort into it. This shit isn't even trolling, all you're doing is wasting bandwidth. Now get some real trolling done, a conspiracy theory or some fucking thing. Something "interesting".

[pythagorean]

Boss move? They say that a lot in Manchester Florida then?

Give the dude some credit for getting the continent correct!

(Your trolling tendencies aside.)

[epronovost]

The center of the world is here in America. 

The geographical center of Earth is not in America. It as been calculated and confirmed in 2003 to be in central Turkey. That's of course by using the internationally recognized and adopted Winkel triple projection map model.

[pythagorean]

The center of the world is here in America. 

The geographical center of Earth is not in America. It as been calculated and confirmed in 2003 to be in central Turkey. That's of course by using the internationally recognized and adopted Winkel triple projection map model.

This is cultural.

And your culture may differ on this.

I have no doubt that you have Historical and Anthropological references for your culture's coordinates as well. (As I will no doubt see.)

This discussion could get very interesting.

[epronovost]

The geographical center of Earth is not in America. It as been calculated and confirmed in 2003 to be in central Turkey. That's of course by using the internationally recognized and adopted Winkel triple projection map model.

This is cultural.

And your culture may differ on this.

Not really no. As mentioned before the Winkel triple projection map model is internationally recognized and used so it transcend all cultures and the rest is good old mathematics which also transcend cultures. You might be confusing the concept geographical center of the Earth with the cultural and mythological concept of Axis Mundi. These are two different things. In the case of Axis Mundi, there isn't one center of the world, there are many as they vary from culture to culture. There is also the joke concept of "center of the world" which is a classic tourist trap/practical joke that uses the fact that the Earth is largely as sphere (it's not a perfect sphere, but close from it) to basically declare some random place on it's surface as the center which is technically correct.

[pythagorean]

This is cultural.

And your culture may differ on this.

Not really no. As mentioned before the Winkel triple projection map model is internationally recognized and used so it transcend all cultures and the rest is good old mathematics which also transcend cultures. You might be confusing the concept geographical center of the Earth with the cultural and mythological concept of Axis Mundi. These are two different things.

Please present your culture's perspective.

[epronovost]

Not really no. As mentioned before the Winkel triple projection map model is internationally recognized and used so it transcend all cultures and the rest is good old mathematics which also transcend cultures. You might be confusing the concept geographical center of the Earth with the cultural and mythological concept of Axis Mundi. These are two different things.

Please present your culture's perspective.

On what?

[pythagorean]

Please present your culture's perspective.

On what?

Never mind.

I thought you might be offering an interesting perspective as a counterpoint.

I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[adey67]

I'm sorry but the content of this thread is most peculiar. I personally lost a lot of respect for Richard Dawkins when he went off on a tangent about how the X Files encouraged and fostered superstitious thinking... There's a reason it's called science fiction Richard FFS.

[rocinantexyz]

Sure, the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

That is a strange statement to say the least. Can you give a timestamp to that part of the video?

[pythagorean]

Sure, the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

That is a strange statement to say the least. Can you give a timestamp to that part of the video?

0:13

Right at the beginning.

But it's not really in Florida.

Of course, there's no reason for him to know that.

Hell, I'd never even heard about it myself until a little more than a quarter century ago.

[rocinantexyz]

...the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

I didn't find any coordinates were offered; and I didn't find anything about the center of the world/Earth was even stated (around the 13 second mark, there was a joke about the center of the universe).

[pythagorean]

...the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

I didn't find any coordinates were offered; and I didn't find anything about the center of the world/Earth was even stated (around the 13 second mark, there was a joke about the center of the universe).

He doesn't have the coordinates, but I do.

Maybe I should send the coordinates to him just to see his reaction.

He might get a real kick out of it.

[rocinantexyz]

He doesn't have the coordinates, but I do.

You said they gave the wrong coordinates; yet no coordinates were given.
You said they gave the location of the center of the world, instead they make a joke about the location of the center of the universe.

What is your purpose for grossly misrepresenting what is in this video?

[pythagorean]

He doesn't have the coordinates, but I do.

You said they gave the wrong coordinates; yet no coordinates were given.
You said they gave the location of the center of the world, instead they make a joke about the location of the center of the universe.

What is your purpose for grossly misrepresenting what is in this video?

He didn't have to give the coordinates. They were already there.

40°46'53.53" N 73°58'23.69" W

Rose Center for Earth and Space - Wikipedia

But they're the wrong coordinates, although well within the experimental error to be expected from any astrophysicist.

Besides, atheists aren't allowed to make jokes, are we?

[epronovost]

You said they gave the wrong coordinates; yet no coordinates were given.
You said they gave the location of the center of the world, instead they make a joke about the location of the center of the universe.

What is your purpose for grossly misrepresenting what is in this video?

He didn't have to give the coordinates. They were already there.

40°46'53.53" N 73°58'23.69" W

Rose Center for Earth and Space - Wikipedia

The center of the world (geographic or mythological) and Rose Center for Earth and Space are not at all the same thing and the video talks about neither of those subject.

[pythagorean]

He didn't have to give the coordinates. They were already there.

40°46'53.53" N 73°58'23.69" W

Rose Center for Earth and Space - Wikipedia

The center of the world (geographic or mythological) and Rose Center for Earth and Space are not at all the same thing and the video talks about neither of those subject.

Center of the world, center of the universe, center of the cosmos, center of the multiverse.

We can quibble all we want. It was still a Boss Move by the American.

Did you notice that the European was forced to agree? (And bringing up Brexit would just be another quibble.)

[rocinantexyz]

The center of the world (geographic or mythological) and Rose Center for Earth and Space are not at all the same thing and the video talks about neither of those subject.

Thank you; I feel slightly less crazy now.

[rocinantexyz]

...the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

V.S.

He didn't have to give the coordinates.

At this point I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you aren't posting in good faith. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

[pythagorean]

...the American got the exact coordinates of the center of the world wrong...

V.S.

He didn't have to give the coordinates.

At this point I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you aren't posting in good faith. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

No big deal.

There were already there. (Hence no coordinates necessary. Hell, I just found them on Wikipedia.)

But they weren't at the center of the world.

I just happen to know where the center of the world actually is, that's all.

I've known that for a little more than a quarter century, but it wasn't until we first got an i-phone that I was able actually see it in music videos and documentaries and to find the coordinates on Google Earth.

It's science and technology that enabled me to find the coordinates.

This is getting a little tedious, though.