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Who's fault is this?
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Who's fault is this?
Obama Reads Shooting Victims Names in Speech



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#2

Who's fault is this?
I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#3

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(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

There is no need to educate yourself before voting in the poll.

Just hold your hands over your eyes and ears and vote.

That's how it works these days anyway, isn't it?
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#4

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(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

FYI…neither am I.
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#5

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(11-05-2023, 10:46 PM)pattylt Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

FYI…neither am I.

Ignorance does not prevent anybody from voting in this country

It's the law.
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#6

Who's fault is this?
what's the beef here? from other boards and threads, i guess?
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#7

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(11-05-2023, 10:47 PM)AutisticWill Wrote: what's the beef here? from other boards and threads, i guess?

There's a Black man in the video.

So some people believe that he clearly hates white folks.

I think it's coming from the Dead Mexicans thread, where some (presumably) white dude went crazy (to put it charitably), and started accusing people of hating white folks.
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#8

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(11-05-2023, 10:47 PM)pythagorean Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 10:46 PM)pattylt Wrote: FYI…neither am I.

Ignorance does not prevent anybody from voting in this country

It's the law.

I’m too fucking old to figure out what you want.  You post a poll with no question on which I’m to vote.  Instead, you post a video.  I’m not watching it as I can’t be bothered.  If YOU want to know MY opinion, then explain what you want to know.  It’s actually pretty simple.  Instead, you seem to like being obtuse.  I don’t have time for obtuse.  I already have issues with social clues in real life and won’t play them here.
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#9

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(11-05-2023, 11:05 PM)pattylt Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 10:47 PM)pythagorean Wrote: Ignorance does not prevent anybody from voting in this country

It's the law.

I’m too fucking old to figure out what you want.  You post a poll with no question on which I’m to vote.  Instead, you post a video.  I’m not watching it as I can’t be bothered.  If YOU want to know MY opinion, then explain what you want to know.  It’s actually pretty simple.  Instead, you seem to like being obtuse.  I don’t have time for obtuse.  I already have issues with social clues in real life and won’t play them here.

In my old age, I sometimes have difficulty getting youtube videos to play, as well. (My laptop is suffering from old age, just like me.)

If you are unable to access the information presented to you, don't worry about it. Most of our society and culture have the same problem.

But that doesn't stop them from voting.

And you shouldn't let it prevent you from voting, either.

What do I want to know?

Whose fault is it?

Santa Clause, or the NRA?
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#10

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(11-05-2023, 10:30 PM)pythagorean Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

There is no need to educate yourself before voting in the poll.

Just hold your hands over your eyes and ears and vote.

That's how it works these days anyway, isn't it?

Learn how to sense when you're going overboard with your posts.
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#11

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(11-05-2023, 11:42 PM)Dancefortwo Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 10:30 PM)pythagorean Wrote: There is no need to educate yourself before voting in the poll.

Just hold your hands over your eyes and ears and vote.

That's how it works these days anyway, isn't it?

Learn how to sense when you're going overboard with your posts.

Vote early and often.
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#12

Who's fault is this?
It's predominately just him reading the first names of those lost at Sandy Hook. Not sure what the takeaway is.
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#13

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(11-05-2023, 11:58 PM)c172 Wrote: It's predominately just him reading the first names of those lost at Sandy Hook. Not sure what the takeaway is.

That's just a part of his culture.

You are correct to point out that President Obama didn't blame Santa Clause, and instead responded to this tragedy in accordance to his culture.

I'm with President Obama on this.

I'm not in the "blame Santa Clause first" crowd.

I prefer critical thinking.
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#16

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(11-05-2023, 10:30 PM)pythagorean Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

There is no need to educate yourself before voting in the poll.

Just hold your hands over your eyes and ears and vote.

That's how it works these days anyway, isn't it?

What makes you think that you have some entitlement to educate me, with a youtube you had nothing to do with (other than posting it here) and a thread that appears to make sense only to you?

But rage on SJW... rage on.
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#17

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(11-06-2023, 02:02 AM)brewerb Wrote: But rage on SJW... rage on.

What's an SJW?

That must have been before my time.
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#18

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(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

Why my friend? Have you guys had a falling out?
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#19

Who's fault is this?
[X] None of the above.
“I expect to pass this way but once; any good therefore that I can do, or any kindness that I can show to any fellow creature, let me do it now. Let me not defer or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again.” (Etienne De Grellet)
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#20

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(11-06-2023, 02:10 AM)pythagorean Wrote:
(11-06-2023, 02:02 AM)brewerb Wrote: But rage on SJW... rage on.

What's an SJW?

That must have been before my time.

It stands for Social Justice Warrior. It's a term that can be used as both a descriptor and a perjorative.
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#21

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Shouldn't a thread as to the cause of gun violence in the US be in the political section instead of one where religion is discussed?
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#22

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(11-06-2023, 06:22 PM)adey67 Wrote:
(11-05-2023, 09:45 PM)brewerb Wrote: I'm not viewing any youtubes that you post.

Why my friend? Have you guys had a falling out?

He/she/it has the ability to tell me about his/her/it's thoughts or ideas. I don't have time for youtube, especially when they end up not making a point as in the case here.
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#23

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(11-06-2023, 06:24 PM)adey67 Wrote: It stands for Social Justice Warrior. It's a term that can be used as both a descriptor and a perjorative.

Oh, thanks!

Those have been around for a long, long time.

My wife comes from a culture of Social Justice Warriors.

Social Justice has always been controversial here in America, from the time that her ancestors first started running away from their masters some 500 years ago, so I'm not surprised that this is still true, today.

Simón Bolívar himself singled out her culture (who he referred to as "the bandits of Patía", which I believe was being used as a pejorative at the time, although today it would be considered as a compliment), as one of the reasons why we couldn't have democracy.

Myths of Harmony: Race and Republicanism during the Age of Revolution, Colombia 1795-1831 
by Marixa Lasso (2007)

https://www.scribd.com/document/447078042/tegsnb-pdf

https://www.amazon.com/Myths-Harmony-Rep...0822959658

(pages 2-4)
 
In such nineteenth-century creole writings, modernity is the commendable aspiration of creole patriots and one of the principles justifying independence from Spain. Yet early narratives of the independence wars also contain some of the first denunciations of modern democratic politics as unsuitable for Spanish American societies. These texts did not condemn democracy per se, but rather its excesses. Simón Bolívar is perhaps the most influential representative of this tradition. His attacks on lawyers, demagogues, and incendiary theoreticians for their failure to grasp that modern politics could not be transferred to Spanish America without sufficient attention to local geography and culture are well known. What often goes unacknowledged is his influence on the development of an intellectual tradition that erased the contribution of the Spanish American popular classes in the history of modern democracy, making modernity seem a mere illusion of the elite. Bolívar sought to prove that fully representative politics did not suit South Americans. He created a dichotomy that distinguished between politically virtuous North Americans and South Americans, whose “character, habits and present enlightenment does not suit perfect representative institutions.” An “entirely popular system,” he insisted, was not appropriate for this region. He also cast local demands for popular and regional representation as the political pipedreams of a handful of enlightened lawyers. In his address to the Constitutional Congress of Angostura, he criticized the current constitution by reminding legislators that “not all eyes are capable of looking at the light of celestial perfection.” Representative democracy might belong in paradise, but not in South America. By making representative politics look like the exclusive aspiration of self-deluded lawyers, he detached the new constitutional governments from the societies that birthed them. This narrative’s legacy erased from historical memory local struggles over the nature of the new political system. Yet if Bolívar lashed out against lawyers’ inability to realize that liberal and perfect institutions did not fit the geography of Colombia, this was because he feared not that the popular classes would remain aloof from modern politics but that they would participate too much. As Germán Carrera Damas has shown, he feared that democracy in Spanish America could lead to the end of elite rule. He blamed lawyers for not understanding that representative institutions among “the Caribes from the Orinoco, the sailors of Maracibo, the bogas [river boatmen] of Magdalena, the bandits of Patia . . . and all the savage hordes of Africa and America” would lead to Colombia’s ruin, perhaps to a second Haiti. In his famous “Jamaica Letter,” he noted that in Lima “the rich would not tolerate democracy, and the slaves and pardos would not tolerate aristocracy.” Years later, he would warn José Antonio Paez against changing Colombia’s republican system, arguing that “the height and brilliance of a throne would be frightful. Equality would be broken and los colores [the colored classes] could see all their rights lost to a new aristocracy.” Future interpretations of Bolívar would tend to forget the strong linkage between pardos and democracy in his writings. Mostly remembered instead is his attack on lawyers’ inability to comprehend local society.
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#24

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(11-06-2023, 06:41 PM)brewerb Wrote:
(11-06-2023, 06:22 PM)adey67 Wrote: Why my friend? Have you guys had a falling out?

He/she/it has the ability to tell me about his/her/it's thoughts or ideas. I don't have time for youtube, especially when they end up not making a point as in the case here.

"The textbook was useless. I never opened it once"
- anonymous math student
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#25

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(11-06-2023, 02:10 AM)pythagorean Wrote: What's an SJW?
It is a pejorative term for someone who thinks hungry people should be supplied with food.
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