Allah's Having A Real Tough Week

[Minimalist]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-66790363

Morocco earthquake: 'The destruction is complete, vast'


An international emergency appeal to provide water and shelter has been launched for victims of an earthquake in Morocco.
At least 2,900 people are now known to have died.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mor...023-09-12/

DERNA, Libya, Sept 12 (Reuters) - More than 2,000 people were killed and at least 10,000 were missing in Libya in floods caused by a huge Mediterranean storm that burst dams, swept away buildings and wiped out as much as a quarter of the eastern coastal city of Derna.
Officials expected the death toll to rise further after Storm Daniel barrelled across the Mediterranean into a country divided and crumbling after more than a decade of conflict.

In Derna, a city of around 125,000 inhabitants, Reuters journalists saw wrecked neighbourhoods, their buildings washed out and cars flipped on their roofs in streets covered in mud and rubble left by a wide torrent after dams burst.

Insh'allah, right?  Unless somebody burns a copy of the fucking koran.  Then they all lose their shit over it.

[pocaracas]

No... it's a natural disaster. Allah had nothing to do with it and was powerless to prevent it.
The people there were clearly wrecking the environment and it kicked back! And it will keep happening throughout the world.
Wasn't it last year that 20% or so of Pakistan was flooded?

[Thethingaboutitis]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-66790363

Morocco earthquake: 'The destruction is complete, vast'


An international emergency appeal to provide water and shelter has been launched for victims of an earthquake in Morocco.
At least 2,900 people are now known to have died.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mor...023-09-12/

DERNA, Libya, Sept 12 (Reuters) - More than 2,000 people were killed and at least 10,000 were missing in Libya in floods caused by a huge Mediterranean storm that burst dams, swept away buildings and wiped out as much as a quarter of the eastern coastal city of Derna.
Officials expected the death toll to rise further after Storm Daniel barrelled across the Mediterranean into a country divided and crumbling after more than a decade of conflict.

In Derna, a city of around 125,000 inhabitants, Reuters journalists saw wrecked neighbourhoods, their buildings washed out and cars flipped on their roofs in streets covered in mud and rubble left by a wide torrent after dams burst.

Insh'allah, right?  Unless somebody burns a copy of the fucking koran.  Then they all lose their shit over it.

And still they pray for their loved ones to be found.

[epronovost]

And still they pray for their loved ones to be found.

As would I (in a manner of speaking) if I were them. This is a terrible tragedy. Plus, it struck in rural mountainous area where aid is more difficult to reach.

[Thethingaboutitis]

And still they pray for their loved ones to be found.

As would I (in a manner of speaking) if I were them. This is a terrible tragedy. Plus, it struck in rural mountainous area where aid is more difficult to reach.

I agree. It's awful and the death toll is rising. I'd be clinging to hope and hoping for the best.

[pattylt]

While climate change is certainly a factor in these floods and earthquakes, the areas being devastated aren’t to blame. They aren’t the ones contributing huge amounts of CO2. Where some blame is evident is in the ability to handle these devastations. Their infrastructure is terrible and their governments are corrupt. To me, that’s the real horror. How many have and will die because of lousy housing, ignored access to help, further deaths due to contaminated water, etc.

I’d love to see the people rise up and demand better government. It probably won’t happen as war lord mentality is a hard nut to crack and religious war lords even more so.

[Minimalist]

No... it's a natural disaster. Allah had nothing to do with it and was powerless to prevent it.

Some fucking god he is.

[epronovost]

Wasn't it last year that 20% or so of Pakistan was flooded?

Indeed. This year, it's Libya. As if civil war wasn't enough for them.

[Dancefortwo]

They're estimating around 20,000 people died in the flood in Libya.  Jeez.

[Inkubus]

Bit of a cheap shot this one Min, 30,000 fucking people dead.

[Dānu]

[Minimalist]

Bit of a cheap shot this one Min, 30,000 fucking people dead.

I didn't do it.


And fucking allah didn't stop it.

[Cavebear]

Allah seeks to destroy those who destroy a Koran. Allah controls the Earth and the Universe. Allah causes earthquakes and tsunamis.

So what happens when Allah destroys a Koran (The Book) in an Earthquake or Tsunimi?

But further, what if one of the faithful were to use a Koran to help paddle himself and an innocent faithful child to safety, ruining The Book in the process. What if the father needed to burn The Book to start a fire to keep a faithful child from freezing to death? What if he just cooked food on that fire? Would it matter if the food was simple or complicated?

And you Christians and Jews (and others), think about your untouchable sacred objects too... Would you consider burning pieces of the Original Cross to save one child from freezing? Would you you burn the original torah or siddur to save one child from freezing?

Think about that carefully...

[pattylt]

I would have no problem burning any sacred object to help a child survive. That’s an easy question for me.

[Minimalist]

The issue probably looks different from the inside of the burqa, though.  Who wants to have rocks thrown at their heads?

[pattylt]

The issue probably looks different from the inside of the burqa, though.  Who wants to have rocks thrown at their heads?

I had a Muslim co worker that wore the modest dress and head scarf.  She was born and raised in my city.  She explained that her parents left the decision up to each of them (4girls) whether to dress as a Muslim or not.  All four did.  Her parents were from Libya and girls start wearing the scarf and dress at puberty.  She claimed she loved to dress this way.  She felt safely enclosed and like everyone knowing she was Muslim.  I asked if she continued to wear the scarf at home?  She laughed and said no, it was the first thing she did when she walked in her door. 

She realized it was a little ironic that she supposedly loved her scarf but removed it when home.  She still claimed that it was her choice.  I think a bit of brainwashing was involved but didn’t say so.  She was a wonderful source of information on Islam and an incredibly smart woman.  She’s now married, having babies and no longer works (she has a masters in hospital administration) which is such a waste of a good brain…imho.

[Minimalist]

That's how allah likes them..... barefoot and pregnant.

[Dancefortwo]

Apparently the dams that broke were pretty slip-shod  and not very stable even before the storm. There's a good reason to have strict government regulations when it comes to public buildings, dams and roads and stuff.  So there are 20,000 people dead because Libya has shoddy building codes and spent their money on other crap.  Apparently everyone living in this area died. 

[Minimalist]

Helps to "a government" and not a couple of warring clans.

Libya is one fucked up place.

[Fireball]

I read an article many years ago about "Why Dictators Can't Build Lasting Infrastructure", or some title close to that. Building by fiat in areas where the building code is considered optional has an inevitable result.

[Chas]

Allah seeks to destroy those who destroy a Koran.  Allah controls the Earth and the Universe.  Allah causes earthquakes and tsunamis.

So what happens when Allah destroys a Koran (The Book) in an Earthquake or Tsunimi?

But further, what if one of the faithful were to use a Koran to help paddle himself and an innocent faithful child to safety, ruining The Book in the process.  What if the father needed to burn  The Book to start a fire to keep a faithful child from freezing to death?  What if he just cooked food on that fire?  Would it matter if the food was simple or complicated?

And you Christians and Jews (and others), think about your untouchable sacred objects too...  Would you consider burning pieces of the Original Cross to save one child from freezing?  Would you you burn the original torah or siddur to save one child from freezing?

Think about that carefully...

I would have to think long and hard before burning an original Shakespeare quarto or an original manuscript of Newton's Principia  or the like.
There are already far too many people on Earth and that is the root cause of climate change and violence.

[Cavebear]

Allah seeks to destroy those who destroy a Koran.  Allah controls the Earth and the Universe.  Allah causes earthquakes and tsunamis.

So what happens when Allah destroys a Koran (The Book) in an Earthquake or Tsunimi?

But further, what if one of the faithful were to use a Koran to help paddle himself and an innocent faithful child to safety, ruining The Book in the process.  What if the father needed to burn  The Book to start a fire to keep a faithful child from freezing to death?  What if he just cooked food on that fire?  Would it matter if the food was simple or complicated?

And you Christians and Jews (and others), think about your untouchable sacred objects too...  Would you consider burning pieces of the Original Cross to save one child from freezing?  Would you you burn the original torah or siddur to save one child from freezing?

Think about that carefully...

I would have to think long and hard before burning an original Shakespeare quarto or an original manuscript of Newton's Principia  or the like.
There are already far too many people on Earth and that is the root cause of climate change and violence.

I agree there are too many of us.

But have you ever seen the movie 'The Day After Tomorrow'?  An apocalypse movie oF (Illogical) drastic temperature drop.  Some survivors burned the furniture in a library and then the books.  I recall one crying as he threw a book into the fireplace.  And I have certainly read Fahrenheit 451 more than a few times.  

Sometimes I cry when I watch 'Cosmos'.  My favorite horrible part is about the Library Of Alexandria and Hypatia.  Sagan's comments about "what if all we knew of Shakespeare were a few minor books" (I can't totaly recall the quote) breaks my heart sometimes about what was known then and was lost.

[skyking]

While climate change is certainly a factor in these floods and earthquakes, the areas being devastated aren’t to blame.  They aren’t the ones contributing huge amounts of CO2.  Where some blame is evident is in the ability to handle these devastations.  Their infrastructure is terrible and their governments are corrupt.  To me, that’s the real horror.  How many have and will die because of lousy housing, ignored access to help, further deaths due to contaminated water, etc.

I’d love to see the people rise up and demand better government.  It probably won’t happen as war lord mentality is a hard nut to crack and religious war lords even more so.

there is no connection between climate change and seismic activity. I am in agreement with the rest.

[Dancefortwo]

Helps to "a government" and not a couple of warring clans.

Libya is one fucked up place.

Wasn't Kadafe  (not sure of the spelling) from Libya? I remember something about him being a total assole.

[Minimalist]

Khadaffi....  he didn't end well.