A Cumulative Case for Christianity

[pythagorean]

I reject the notion that she is "supposed to believe" anything outside of her own culture.

That was the position of the Spanish Inquisition. (Some folks here are upset that she considers herself as a bruja, for example, and that she casts magic spells on people, like me and then Senator Barack Obama, but that's just a part of her culture. It feels a little weird to me, as a life-long old-school atheist for newfangled 21st Century internet so-called "atheists" to be taking the side of the Spanish Inquisition.)

Remember, her culture has freedom of religion, which includes both individual religious rights as well as collective religious rights.

It's not just an individual thing.

It's a collective thing.

(Collective rights, under International Law, may include such religious issues as territory, for example. Who owns the center of the world, the Axis Mundi, where heaven meets earth and hell? That's the very place that I want to put the origin of my coordinate chart if somebody holds a pickle to my head.)

[pythagorean]

There's another way to do atheism.

Instead of us atheists trying to tell non-atheists what their cultures should entail, we could just ask them.

That way, we could actually learn something.

But that notion seems foreign in the age of antiintellectualknownothingism.

[Bucky Ball]

You told us she was a Catholic.
Either she is or she is not.

[Minimalist]

she casts magic spells on people, like me 

Did she turn you into a newt?

[pythagorean]

You told us she was a Catholic.
Either she is or she is not.

Of course she's Catholic.

She comes from a Catholic culture.

In her culture, José María Obando (possibly the most important dead white dude in the history of the known universe) was protected by the Virgin of Sorrow, or something like that.

[Bucky Ball]

You told us she was a Catholic.
Either she is or she is not.

Of course she's Catholic.

She comes from a Catholic culture.

In her culture, José María Obando (possibly the most important dead white dude in the history of the known universe) was protected by the Virgin of Sorrow.

LOL
So you're saying she is a "cafeteria" Catholic ?
She gets to pick and chose what she believes in ?

BTW, I like this one better ... better "swoon" and obviously better sex and better dildo. In St. Peter's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ecsta...sa_HDR.jpg

[pythagorean]

she casts magic spells on people, like me 

Did she turn you into a newt?

She usually casts a magic spell on me when we are starting on a trip by car, or when an airplane takes off.

She'll make the sign of the cross twice, first on herself and then on me. 

It's a Catholic thang.

You've heard of Catholicism, right?

Sometimes, when we are in a grocery store, she'll suddenly disappear, and I'll go from aisle to aisle looking for her to no avail. Later, she'll reappear just as suddenly as she disappeared. 

Whenever she does that, I call her "Catalina". It's just a part of her culture. 

SON DE CAPELLANIAS - LA BRUJA



CATALINA

[Bucky Ball]

Is she shoplifting ?

[pythagorean]

LOL
So you're saying she is a "cafeteria" Catholic ?
She gets to pick and chose what she believes in ?

Not at all.

She doesn't pick and choose. 

It's just a part of her culture. And she's faithful to her culture.

She comes from a Catholic culture.

Allied with the slaves and the Catholic church in the wars of independence, against the revolutionary forces of Simón Bolívar.

These were Holy Wars.

Keep in mind that her religion is a religion of war. 

That's different from what is commonly meant by the term "cafeteria Catholic".

Academia de San Francisco - ESGRIMA COLOMBIANA - Esgrima de machete y bordón - LAS SIETE PARADAS

[pythagorean]

Is she shoplifting ?

Of course not. 

She's the most honest and trustworthy person that I've ever met.

[Minimalist]

You've heard of Catholicism, right?

Sure.  I was one.

Then I turned 7 and grew up!

[pythagorean]

Then I turned 7 and grew up!

That was your first mistake.

In my experience, it is quite possible to be an atheist without growing up.

[Rhythmcs]

You also reject the doctrine of the catholic church? That's even less surprising than a catholic rejecting the doctrine of the catholic church - but not by much.

[Inkubus]

As atheists, we need to use our skills of critical thought to help prevent future massacres of Black folks, not to encourage them. (However funny we may find the thoughts of dead Mexicans in a roof collapse of a church or dead Black folks in the Church bombing in Bojayá, that some folks here like to laugh about.)

Who is this "we"?

Arsehole!

[pythagorean]

As atheists, we need to use our skills of critical thought to help prevent future massacres of Black folks, not to encourage them. (However funny we may find the thoughts of dead Mexicans in a roof collapse of a church or dead Black folks in the Church bombing in Bojayá, that some folks here like to laugh about.)

Who is this "we"?

Arsehole!

Those of us who find the idea of dead Mexicans funny. 

I'd call them fundamentalists.

See the dead Mexican thread.

[Bucky Ball]

Then I turned 7 and grew up!

That was your first mistake.

In my experience, it is quite possible to be an atheist without growing up.

Which you obviously never did.

[pythagorean]

That was your first mistake.

In my experience, it is quite possible to be an atheist without growing up.

Which you obviously never did.

Of course not.

Why would I want to?

[Bucky Ball]

According to Pew Research, 50 % of Catholics don't even know what "transubstantiation" means.

[Minimalist]

Then I turned 7 and grew up!

That was your first mistake.

In my experience, it is quite possible to be an atheist without growing up.

I totally disagree.  Religitards retain childish fantasies for their entire lives.

[pythagorean]

That was your first mistake.

In my experience, it is quite possible to be an atheist without growing up.

I totally disagree.  Religitards retain childish fantasies for their entire lives.

Aren't you the same dude who openly supports the "Coalition of Canceled Priests"? (Did I get the name right?)

I suppose that the reference to so-called "cancel culture" in the name got your "anti-woke" knee jerking.

Oh well...life goes on.

Classic TV Theme: Life Goes On (Stereo)

[Dancefortwo]

I totally disagree.  Religitards retain childish fantasies for their entire lives.

Aren't you the same dude who openly supports the "Coalition of Canceled Priests"? (Did I get the name right?)

I suppose that the reference to so-called "cancel culture" in the name got your "anti-woke" knee jerking.

Oh well...life goes on.

Classic TV Theme: Life Goes On (Stereo)

Ya know, I don't really care what you say on this forum but, holy shit, could you not post in BIG FUCKING BOLD LETTERS.

Bolding the link may seem to you that it's going to make people watch with apt interest and excitment all the videos you post but, honestly, it does the opposite.   I can only speak for myself but I have never watched one of the numerous videos you've posted and mostly it's because of the annoying way you do it.  

Learn a little restraint and self control.  It goes a long way.

[Minimalist]

(Did I get the name right?)

At this point, I'd be hard pressed to think of anything you have ever gotten right.  I don't put much credence in Youtube videos, btw.

[Rainprooffredturnip]

Christianity is a load of bullshit. I struggle with the notion of someone else paying for my shortcomings.
If someone had to die on a cross just so I could have a guilt free wank there's something wrong with god's logic.

[pythagorean]

Christianity is a load of bullshit. I struggle with the notion of someone else paying for my shortcomings.
If someone had to die on a cross just so I could have a guilt free wank there's something wrong with god's logic.

We all have shortcomings.

And yes, many people do pay the price for our shortcomings.

Welcome to the real world.

And please, don't blame Logic for our own human shortcomings.

I've always found that annoying.

The Logical Song

[pythagorean]

(Did I get the name right?)

At this point, I'd be hard pressed to think of anything you have ever gotten right.  I don't put much credence in Youtube videos, btw.

While ridiculing children and their cultures and beliefs may on occasions give some adults gratifying illusions of Omnipotence and Omniscience, it is actually a form of antiintelectualknownothingism that inhibits and limits ones ability to learn new things.

The children of the world (like these Mexican children) have a lot to teach us adults, but we have to be willing to meet them half-way.

How many of these children's parents even know enough Spanish to teach you Tzotzil? Unlike their patents, who may not know a word of Spanish, these children probably took a course in Spanish in school, which makes teaching adults Tzotzil easier.

In my experience, here in Iowa, children are often asked to translate for their parents.

Learning Tzotzil from the locals

Tzotzil is a Maya language spoken in parts of Chiapas, Mexico. For many of these people Spanish is their second language. After six days of exploring Rio la Venta Canyon with my friend David Escobar Martinez we climbed out of the canyon and eventually came to this village where the curious children began to share with us their language, Tzotzil.