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The Sword of Christ
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Paul said it in 2 Corinthians 5:7,

"(For we walk by faith, not by sightSmile"

Abraham said that he had his eyes on a heavenly abode, this world is not my home.

So it is with the Christian! We are just passing though this place.

We live our lives by faith in Christ that what He did on that Cross at Calvary, sets us free from sin, from the punishment of sin, and grants us a home with Him.

The Atheist lives this life by sight, if he can't see it, it ain't there.

Two different worlds we live in! So hard to get along.

Christ said that He came not to bring peace, but a sword. Walking this life, some by faith and some by sight, is the sword!

Matthew 10:34

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."
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So, his being/ having a sword is a good thing you say?
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(08-18-2023, 10:38 PM)Dom Wrote: So, his being/ having a sword is a good thing you say?

NO, it's not a good thing, but necessary to accomplish the will of God.
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(08-18-2023, 10:28 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: The Atheist lives this life by sight, if he can't see it, it ain't there.
Even blind atheists?
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(08-18-2023, 10:56 PM)rocinantexyz Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 10:28 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: The Atheist lives this life by sight, if he can't see it, it ain't there.
Even blind atheists?

LOL, yes, even the blind, both believers and unbelievers.

If there is life, there is a walk through that life.
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Actually, scholars now suspect that what is called 2 Corinthians is actually at least two separate letters (and possibly as many as 5 ) which have been cut and pasted together to make one longer letter.  We'll never know because we do not have any of the allegedly original letters - just copies of copies of copies down through the centuries but it is fairly safe to say that even if this paul asshole was real these letters were certainly not in their final form during his alleged life time.

https://ehrmanblog.org/several-letters-i...rinthians/

Quote:Paul’s tone changes even within his second letter, and rather severely. Indeed, many scholars are convinced that 2 Corinthians does not represent a solitary letter that Paul sat down one day and wrote but a combination of two or more letters that he penned at different times for different occasions. According to this theory, someone else, possibly a member of the Corinthian congregation itself, later edited these letters with “scissors and paste.” 


But of course, xhristards believe anything they are told by some shmuck wearing a funny hat.
Robert G. Ingersoll : “No man with a sense of humor ever founded a religion.”
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(08-18-2023, 10:41 PM)Charlie24 Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 10:38 PM)Dom Wrote: So, his being/ having a sword is a good thing you say?

NO, it's not a good thing, but necessary to accomplish the will of God.

Why can't he accomplish his will with kindness?
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(08-18-2023, 11:02 PM)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, scholars now suspect that what is called 2 Corinthians is actually at least two separate letters (and possibly as many as 5 ) which have been cut and pasted together to make one longer letter.  We'll never know because we do not have any of the allegedly original letters - just copies of copies of copies down through the centuries but it is fairly safe to say that even if this paul asshole was real these letters were certainly not in their final form during his alleged life time.

https://ehrmanblog.org/several-letters-i...rinthians/

Quote:Paul’s tone changes even within his second letter, and rather severely. Indeed, many scholars are convinced that 2 Corinthians does not represent a solitary letter that Paul sat down one day and wrote but a combination of two or more letters that he penned at different times for different occasions. According to this theory, someone else, possibly a member of the Corinthian congregation itself, later edited these letters with “scissors and paste.” 


But of course, xhristards believe anything they are told by some shmuck wearing a funny hat.

Yes, I agree that some do. We are individually responsible to read it for ourselves, even the blind can do that, if they want to.

The Bible is alive, it speaks to the heart. It's how God communicates with us through His Word. It will show you where you've been in this life, where you are now, and where you're going.

Hebrews 4:12

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
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Ooops.
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(08-18-2023, 10:28 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: Paul said it in 2 Corinthians 5:7,

"(For we walk by faith, not by sightSmile"


Quote:
Rev Ch:1
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself and there shall in that time be rumors of things going astray,  and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock.

Sounds more like an acid trip yer man was walking through.
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(08-18-2023, 11:09 PM)Charlie24 Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:02 PM)Minimalist Wrote: Actually, scholars now suspect that what is called 2 Corinthians is actually at least two separate letters (and possibly as many as 5 ) which have been cut and pasted together to make one longer letter.  We'll never know because we do not have any of the allegedly original letters - just copies of copies of copies down through the centuries but it is fairly safe to say that even if this paul asshole was real these letters were certainly not in their final form during his alleged life time.

https://ehrmanblog.org/several-letters-i...rinthians/



But of course, xhristards believe anything they are told by some shmuck wearing a funny hat.

Yes, I agree that some do. We are individually responsible to read it for ourselves, even the blind can do that, if they want to.

The Bible is alive, it speaks to the heart. It's how God communicates with us through His Word. It will show you where you've been in this life, where you are now, and where you're going.

Hebrews 4:12

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

Why didn’t god write this stuff?  Heck, why didn’t Jesus?  It’s soooo important for us that he left all this important knowledge to unknown Hebrews and later, Greeks. Why did god allow contradictions in his Bible?  Why did he allow geography errors and Jewish cultural errors?  Why were there no witnesses to his actual rising moment?  Why so many conflicting stories?  Why can’t we even know which genealogy of the two are correct?  Yeah, I got questions…
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(08-18-2023, 11:13 PM)Inkubus Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 10:28 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: Paul said it in 2 Corinthians 5:7,

"(For we walk by faith, not by sightSmile"


Quote:
Rev Ch:1
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself and there shall in that time be rumors of things going astray,  and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock.

Sounds more like an acid trip yer man was walking through.

Yes , that's exactly what it sounds for the spiritually disconnected from God.

You notice that John said when he seen these things "I was in the Spirit."  Rev. 1:10
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(08-18-2023, 11:05 PM)Dom Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 10:41 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: NO, it's not a good thing, but necessary to accomplish the will of God.

Why can't he accomplish his will with kindness?

He tried that at His first advent to this earth. The response was being beaten nearly to death and then nailed to a Cross and laughed at.

Christ met the opposition with love and tenderness, when He was rejected, that was the game changer for all of us.
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Quote:For the word of God is quick,


Actually, it is the word of some Greek-speaking scribes who lived long after the events they claim to be describing.  You are far too quick to accept what you are told.

Become a little more discerning.
Robert G. Ingersoll : “No man with a sense of humor ever founded a religion.”
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(08-18-2023, 11:25 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: ... The response was being beaten nearly to death and then nailed to a Cross and laughed at ...

That was according to plan, which went without a hitch.  Those who carried out that plan should be celebrated as heroes for exactly fulfilling god's will.  Something like that should absolutely be repaid with kindness.
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(08-18-2023, 11:17 PM)pattylt Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:09 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: Yes, I agree that some do. We are individually responsible to read it for ourselves, even the blind can do that, if they want to.

The Bible is alive, it speaks to the heart. It's how God communicates with us through His Word. It will show you where you've been in this life, where you are now, and where you're going.

Hebrews 4:12

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

Why didn’t god write this stuff?  Heck, why didn’t Jesus?  It’s soooo important for us that he left all this important knowledge to unknown Hebrews and later, Greeks. Why did god allow contradictions in his Bible?  Why did he allow geography errors and Jewish cultural errors?  Why were there no witnesses to his actual rising moment?  Why so many conflicting stories?  Why can’t we even know which genealogy of the two are correct?  Yeah, I got questions…

Some of your questions are in error.

AS to why God didn't write the Scriptures is the biggest error I see. God the Holy Spirit wrote the Scriptures.

God chose men of His choice to write under the inspiration of the Spirit.

2 Peter 1:20-21

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
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Some plans are better than others.
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(08-18-2023, 11:34 PM)airportkid Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:25 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: ... The response was being beaten nearly to death and then nailed to a Cross and laughed at ...

That was according to plan, which went without a hitch.  Those who carried out that plan should be celebrated as heroes for exactly fulfilling god's will.  Something like that should absolutely be repaid with kindness.

It was the will of God from the foundation of the world that Christ would die for mans sin, that is love!

But woe to those who did it and support it.

The Scripture quotes the words of the Jews who demanded He be killed. They said, "let the blood of this man be on us and our generations. 

And so it was, the Jews have been the most persecuted people on earth since, and will be until He returns.
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(08-18-2023, 11:35 PM)Charlie24 Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:17 PM)pattylt Wrote: Why so many conflicting stories?
...God the Holy Spirit wrote the Scriptures...
Exactly; so if the Bible was written by someone who is presumably perfect; why is the Bible self contradictory? 

I hope you don't deny that the Bible contains self contradictory statements.
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(08-18-2023, 10:28 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: The Atheist lives this life by sight, if he can't see it, it ain't there.
Well that is it for me. This is a lie. You either know it is a lie and you are trolling; or you don't know it is a lie because you are a bigot or an idiot. Which one doesn't really matter to me; it is the same outcome in any case. Good luck.
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(08-18-2023, 11:49 PM)rocinantexyz Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:35 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: ...God the Holy Spirit wrote the Scriptures...
Exactly; so if the Bible was written by someone who is presumably perfect; why is the Bible self contradictory? 

I hope you don't deny that the Bible contains self contradictory statements.

I agree there are mistakes by the Scribes who rewrote the Scripture. There are mistakes in numbers and dates, which is very confusing.

But I certainly do deny any contradictions in the Scripture.

Several years ago I was on an Atheist forum that had posted 50 contradictions in Scripture, so they thought. 

It caught my eye and I set out to show them they were not contradictions, they just didn't know their Bible.

I made it through 20, if I remember correctly, before I was banned.

I will be happy to take on any contradiction you have in Scripture. I will explain it and show you in Scripture it's not a contradiction!
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(08-18-2023, 11:20 PM)Charlie24 Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:13 PM)Inkubus Wrote: [/font][/size][/color][/font][/size][/color]


Sounds more like an acid trip yer man was walking through.

Yes , that's exactly what it sounds for the spiritually disconnected from God.

You notice that John said when he seen these things "I was in the Spirit."  Rev. 1:10

Did you know that there used to be a tradition of actually making "acid trips" to then describe the resulting hallucinations as divine visions? That's actually how the Apocalypse was written. It was written by a Christian sect on a small island known for that type of religious practice. Yeah, "acid trips", dream interpretation and hallucination brought by epileptic seizures were all common traits of religious revelations and interpretation. Hell, you can still see this practice being conducted in Christian churches where people "speak in tongues" or pursue particularly harsh ascetism where deprivation and flagellation can alter the mental state of a person. Spirituality is filled with this type of experience. It's not magic; it's good old fucking with your brain chemistry and getting amazed at the results.
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Sure, you did.

Let's see some examples.
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No contradictions, huh.

So tell me.  Was your godboy born before 4 BC when Herod the Great was King of Judaea - or after 6 AD when Publius Sulpicius Quirinius was named Imperial Legate of Syria?

Be sure to document your answer.
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(08-19-2023, 12:13 AM)epronovost Wrote:
(08-18-2023, 11:20 PM)Charlie24 Wrote: Yes , that's exactly what it sounds for the spiritually disconnected from God.

You notice that John said when he seen these things "I was in the Spirit."  Rev. 1:10

Did you know that there used to be a tradition of actually making "acid trips" to then describe the resulting hallucinations as divine visions? That's actually how the Apocalypse was written. It was written by a Christian sect on a small island known for that type of religious practice. Yeah, "acid trips", dream interpretation and hallucination brought by epileptic seizures were all common traits of religious revelations and interpretation. Hell, you can still see this practice being conducted in Christian churches where people "speak in tongues" or pursue particularly harsh ascetism where deprivation and flagellation can alter the mental state of a person. Spirituality is filled with this type of experience. It's not magic; it's good old fucking with your brain chemistry and getting amazed at the results.

That's not what the Scripture says! It's always amazed me how some will believe old wives tales and completely ignore what's written in the Word.

Yes, and some of these so-called churches are a mockery before God. Whose end is also predicted in Scripture.
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