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Why The Bible is Such a Horrible Information Source
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Why The Bible is Such a Horrible Information Source
Say you wanted to design and build an airplane.  You want it at the very least to be aerodynamically viable, structurally viable, economically feasible, and controllable.  You might want other features like speed and climb performance minimums, payload minimums, operable in controlled airspace, and attractive appearance, but the first four must be met no matter what you come up with.  So you start work, but restrict your reference material to the works of Otto Lilienthal and Octave Chanute.  They were the leading lights of aviation in their time, resources the Wright brothers corresponded with at length - and the Wright brothers met all four of the minimum set of requirements and got off the ground under power.

It turns out the Wright brothers succeeded without meaningful guidance from Lilienthal and Chanute because their "at-the-apex" of aeronautical knowledge was still inadequate.  The Wright brothers had to design and build the world's first wind tunnel, to acquire the necessary depth of aerodynamic understanding.  That understanding guided their invention of the first practical airscrews (propellors).  Their chief engineer Charles Taylor invented a lightweight internal combustion engine (existing motorcycle engines at the time had unusable power to weight ratios).  None of these necessary developments were even concepts to Lilienthal and Chanute.

Thus even the most current research was insufficient to guide the Wright brothers; they had to conduct further research themselves.

In the intervening 12 decades since 1903 and 2023 the state of aeronautical knowledge has magnified beyond comprehension.  Today, using current references, a reasonably smart person could design and build not just a working airplane but an efficient airplane that meets ambitious performance goals.  But it would be impossible, as the Wrights discovered, to accomplish it using only Lilienthal and Chanute as your information resources.

All of which raises a pertinent question.  On ANY subject, technological, sociological, biological - or even religious, is there ANY passage in the bible that still remains "at-the-apex" of human understanding, the no subsequent research or literature hasn't just totally eclipsed?  The answer to that lies within the nearly infinite library of works that explain and explore every word, sentence, paragraph, chapter and book of the bible in thousands and millions more words than the original.  Against that vast library - to say nothing of the even greater library of non-biblical works in all subjects across hundreds of years of uninterrupted learning - the bible is hopelessly outclassed, inadequate, and utterly useless.

If you're looking to the bible for succor, comfort, guidance, or mere entertainment, you're only scraping sand in a barren desert compared to the riches of the world outside of it.
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Other than some English translation sayings, it’s a totally useless book and has been for over 250 years, minimum.

If the Bible had even hinted at the germ theory of disease, it would have been more useful. But, nothing…
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At least Otto Lilienthal's works, as well as that of other aviation pioneers, were not fairy tales and myths. They were very very basic aeronautical knowledge but they were still knowledge and they contributed to planes flying. They were facts that could be built upon.

Like anything aviation adheres to the precepts of evolution. The knowledge needed to make a WWI biplane was surpassed by the knowledge to make my old Beechcraft (RIP, new owner crashed it after I sold it to him; he refused the check flight I offered him; it had some quirks; could have been a Darwin Award but he survived unscathed), which has been eclipsed by the knowledge to make say, an all-composite Boeing 787. That's where the watchmaker vs watch concept of God fails. The watchmaker is the product of the evolution of every watch/clock maker before, starting with the sun dial), and was not just suddenly an expert watchmaker.

I once heard a Jesuit astrophysicist (!) interviewed on the radio. He said the religion "explained" more than science did. Except that most of religion's explanations are just plain wrong. Ask Galileo. The Bible says a lot of shit for which there is not one iota of evidence, for instance the parting of the Red Sea and the Exodus from Egypt. That does not even come close to comparing with aeronautical pioneers who at least were *discovering* facts, instead of making them up.

And since we're using aviation as an example, how did Jesus ascend to "heaven" without help from Bernoulli's principle or Newton's laws?

The Bible is a collection of stories, nothing more. It can be studied as literature as it uses different literary styles in its various stories, but beyond that as Patty says it is completely useless. Actually it's worse than useless, it's been the source of wars, schisms, dissension, and disagreement since first compiled in the 4th century.
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(05-26-2023, 10:13 PM)airportkid Wrote: Say you wanted to design and build an airplane.  You want it at the very least to be aerodynamically viable, structurally viable, economically feasible, and controllable.  You might want other features like speed and climb performance minimums, payload minimums, operable in controlled airspace, and attractive appearance, but the first four must be met no matter what you come up with.  So you start work, but restrict your reference material to the works of Otto Lilienthal and Octave Chanute.  They were the leading lights of aviation in their time, resources the Wright brothers corresponded with at length - and the Wright brothers met all four of the minimum set of requirements and got off the ground under power.

It turns out the Wright brothers succeeded without meaningful guidance from Lilienthal and Chanute because their "at-the-apex" of aeronautical knowledge was still inadequate.  The Wright brothers had to design and build the world's first wind tunnel, to acquire the necessary depth of aerodynamic understanding.  That understanding guided their invention of the first practical airscrews (propellors).  Their chief engineer Charles Taylor invented a lightweight internal combustion engine (existing motorcycle engines at the time had unusable power to weight ratios).  None of these necessary developments were even concepts to Lilienthal and Chanute.

Thus even the most current research was insufficient to guide the Wright brothers; they had to conduct further research themselves.

In the intervening 12 decades since 1903 and 2023 the state of aeronautical knowledge has magnified beyond comprehension.  Today, using current references, a reasonably smart person could design and build not just a working airplane but an efficient airplane that meets ambitious performance goals.  But it would be impossible, as the Wrights discovered, to accomplish it using only Lilienthal and Chanute as your information resources.

All of which raises a pertinent question.  On ANY subject, technological, sociological, biological - or even religious, is there ANY passage in the bible that still remains "at-the-apex" of human understanding, the no subsequent research or literature hasn't just totally eclipsed?  The answer to that lies within the nearly infinite library of works that explain and explore every word, sentence, paragraph, chapter and book of the bible in thousands and millions more words than the original.  Against that vast library - to say nothing of the even greater library of non-biblical works in all subjects across hundreds of years of uninterrupted learning - the bible is hopelessly outclassed, inadequate, and utterly useless.

If you're looking to the bible for succor, comfort, guidance, or mere entertainment, you're only scraping sand in a barren desert compared to the riches of the world outside of it.

Depending on any religious text for ethical guidance is sort of like sweeping the floor of a cave. There is no originality in in it and it doesn't help much. Advancing to "building a floor" is much more useful. Smile
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(05-26-2023, 10:51 PM)Cranky Wrote: At least Otto Lilienthal's works, as well as that of other aviation pioneers, were not fairy tales and myths.  They were very very basic aeronautical knowledge but they were still knowledge and they contributed to planes flying.  They were facts that could be built upon.

Like anything aviation adheres to the precepts of evolution.  The knowledge needed to make a WWI biplane was surpassed by the knowledge to make my old Beechcraft (RIP, new owner crashed it after I sold it to him; he refused the check flight I offered him; it had some quirks; could have been a Darwin Award but he survived unscathed), which has been eclipsed by the knowledge to make say, an all-composite Boeing 787.  That's where the watchmaker vs watch concept of God fails.  The watchmaker is the product of the evolution of every watch/clock maker before, starting with the sun dial), and was not just suddenly an expert watchmaker.

I once heard a Jesuit astrophysicist (!) interviewed on the radio.  He said the religion "explained" more than science did.  Except that most of religion's explanations are just plain wrong.  Ask Galileo.  The Bible says a lot of shit for which there is not one iota of evidence, for instance the parting of the Red Sea and the Exodus from Egypt.  That does not even come close to comparing with aeronautical pioneers who at least were *discovering* facts, instead of making them up.

And since we're using aviation as an example, how did Jesus ascend to "heaven" without help from Bernoulli's principle or Newton's laws?

The Bible is a collection of stories, nothing more.  It can be studied as literature as it uses different literary styles in its various stories, but beyond that as Patty says it is completely useless.  Actually it's worse than useless, it's been the source of wars, schisms, dissension, and disagreement since first compiled in the 4th century.

Sorry about the RIP pilot. Flight-checks (and fact-checks) matter. I went up in a 2-seater with an aquaitance (friend of a friend) who knew I was afraid of heights. The bastard cut the engine off (temporarily) as a joke. I'm sure my fingerprints are still impressed on an interior strut!

4th century BC, right?

I've read the OT and NT a couple of times. Such mayhem, brutality, and nonsense!

"From there, Elisha went up to Bethel, and as he was walking up the road, a group of boys came out of the city and jeered at him, chanting, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” Then he turned around, looked at them, and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Suddenly two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys."

How does anyone make up such stories thinking to impress readers about their religion? I can barely imagine it "so god cased 42 children to die by bears for heckling a stranger. LOL!"
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(05-26-2023, 11:41 PM)Cavebear Wrote: 4th century BC, right?

The current Christian Bible is a compilation of books of the Old Testament (the Hebrew or Jewish Bible), and the New Testament.  The books were compiled into the Canon of what we now call the "Bible" in the 4th century AD.  At the Council of Rome in 382 AD to be precise, under Pope Damasus I.

The individual books of the Bible, however, were of course authored before that.  The Old Testament books go back to 1200 BC or so, from what I can dredge up on Wikipedia.

There are some arguments between Protestants and Catholics about the Bible.  The Catholic Bible has 72 books and the Protestant one has 66.  They consider the extra 6 books as apocryphal, whereas Catholics consider them canonical.

I figure 6 more or 6 fewer books... it's all BS.
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(05-27-2023, 12:04 AM)Cranky Wrote:
(05-26-2023, 11:41 PM)Cavebear Wrote: 4th century BC, right?

The current Christian Bible is a compilation of books of the Old Testament (the Hebrew or Jewish Bible), and the New Testament.  The books were compiled into the Canon of what we now call the "Bible" in the 4th century AD.  At the Council of Rome in 382 AD to be precise, under Pope Damasus I.

The individual books of the Bible, however, were of course authored before that.  The Old Testament books go back to 1200 BC or so, from what I can dredge up on Wikipedia.

There are some arguments between Protestants and Catholics about the Bible.  The Catholic Bible has 72 books and the Protestant one has 66.  They consider the extra 6 books as apocryphal, whereas Catholics consider them canonical.

I figure 6 more or 6 fewer books... it's all BS.

OK, I was thinking of the origins of the OT bible. BC made more sense. Granted that, obviously the NT has to be AD.

"There are some arguments between Protestants and Catholics about the Bible". Really? Who would have guessed? Just kidding. I know what you meant.
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Quote:The Old Testament books go back to 1200 BC or so, from what I can dredge up on Wikipedia.

Which is why Wiki is almost as horrible a source of information as the fucking bible.


We have no indication that any of this happy horseshit existed in written form prior to the early 3d century BCE when the Septuagint was produced in Alexandria.

Most of the rest of it has a second century BCE date of composition during the Hasmonean period and showed up in the DSS.

You do have to ask yourself WHEN Judah had any semblance of an independent existence in the first millennium?  Until the late 8th century BCE it seems that Jerusalem was little more than a shitty little village at best - or possibly just a manor house for the local warlord.  It grew rapidly under Assyrian domination and sitting along the Arabian trade routes fortuitously.  They traded Assyrian domination for Babylonian and then later Persian, Greek, ( Ptolemaic and Seleucid variants ) before finally in the late 2d century the Seleucids collapsed to the point that they couldn't even maintain control of Judah!.  It was only then, under the Hasmonean kings John Hyrcanus and Aristobulos that they managed to become something of a local power and overran a couple of neighboring territories.  Then the whole thing dissolved into a mess of dynastic squabbling until Pompey the Great and his legions put them all out of their misery.

But it is highly unlikely that the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, and Greeks would have tolerated the pretensions of their conquered people as written in that silly-assed bible.  So you have to look to the short window of independence between c 140 BCE and about 85 BCE for a time when such utter nonsense would  have been tolerated by their masters.
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Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.  Dodgy
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Because it written by a bunch of scientifically inept troglodytes.
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Quote:It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation.

What it promotes is the status quo for that society at that time.
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(05-27-2023, 04:13 PM)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation.

What it promotes is the status quo for that society at that time.

“The Bible has not civilized mankind. A book that establishes and defends slavery and wanton war is not calculated to soften the hearts of those who believe implicitly that it is the work of God. A book that not only permits, but commands, religious persecution, has not, in my judgment, developed the affectional nature of man. Its influence has been bad and bad only. It has filled the world with bitterness, revenge and crime, and retarded in countless ways the progress of our race.” (Robert G. Ingersoll)
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It's around 60 years since I read the bible.  I've only ever owned one,
given to me (and my school classmates) by a member of the clergy
when I was 11 years of age.  She used to give us a period of what
was laughably called religious "instruction" every week.

By the time I was in my early teens it was in the bin LOL.  And I've
never once opened a bible since then, although of course I've read
thousands of other books since.  The bible has absolutely nothing in
it to warrant anybody in the 21st century wasting even five minutes
of their time reading it.
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(05-29-2023, 03:38 PM)SYZ Wrote: It's around 60 years since I read the bible.  I've only ever owned one,
given to me (and my school classmates) by a member of the clergy
when I was 11 years of age.  She used to give us a period of what
was laughably called religious "instruction" every week.

By the time I was in my early teens it was in the bin LOL.  And I've
never once opened a bible since then, although of course I've read
thousands of other books since.  The bible has absolutely nothing in
it to warrant anybody in the 21st century wasting even five minutes
of their time reading it.

Ditto
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I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement. Like, do you actually know what it is to refrain from judging others or things, even things which you disagree with or don't understand? I don't. I also think the Bible is pretty advanced advanced when it comes to its understanding of love. If you understand love as the absence of harm, and that God is this love ("God is love"), then you can reason that this God is never actually trying to hurt you or anyone. Forgiving others unconditionally is also a radical concept 1,000 years ago or today. How many people here can say that they have forgiven everyone in their life?
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Quote:Like, do you actually know what it is to refrain from judging others or things, even things which you disagree with or don't understand?


It seems that most alleged "xtians" haven't read those parts, either.

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(05-29-2023, 05:22 PM)Kathryn E Wrote: I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement.

I've never seen anything in the bible that amounts to "teaching".  The bible is overfull of injunctions, admonishments and directives.  But in no case does it explain HOW to comply.  I could point to a Beech KingAir on the airport tarmac and tell you to get in it and fly it to Boise, but without about a year's worth of training you wouldn't even be able to open the cabin door.

Human psychology and anatomy, and human sociology together make a operating a KingAir no more involved than a game of checkers by comparison - and the bible doesn't even provide rules for checkers when it proclaims how we're supposed to behave, or refrain from behaving.  To call the bible a "teaching" instrument is to grossly misunderstand what teaching really is.

In a sense the fault doesn't lie with the bible's authors.  Human understanding in just about any realm of knowledge was desperately ignorant; the authors worked with what was thought to be known.  But faultless or not, the bible today is only an historic curiosity, long superseded by advances in every corridor of knowledge.
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(05-29-2023, 05:22 PM)Kathryn E Wrote: I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement.  Like, do you actually know what it is to refrain from judging others or things, even things which you disagree with or don't understand?  I don't.  I also think the Bible is pretty advanced advanced when it comes to its understanding of love.  If you understand love as the absence of harm, and that God is this love ("God is love"), then you can reason that this God is never actually trying to hurt you or anyone.  Forgiving others unconditionally is also a radical concept 1,000 years ago or today.  How many people here can say that they have forgiven everyone in their life?

For the most part, the texts collected in the Bible are political, not religious. (See below) There is NOWHERE in the Bible that says "God is love".  That is a sentimental mid-20th Century concept. You have no evidence that a concept such as that existed in ancient Hebrew culture.  
They are neither "advanced" nor "not advanced". They all fit perfectly EXACTLY in the cultures which produced them. Ancient Near Eastern culture, which had NO monopoly on "truth" or anything else. Their gods (before the infusion of the concept of Greek *individualism* pushed the prophets) to insist on monotheism) were angry and vindictive, just as all other gods from cultures of the period. The OT is POETRY and unapologetically MYTHOLOGY.... and political opinion from the culture. Read Rudolph Bultmann, (Jesus Christ and Mythology), MYTHOLOGY is now a dirty word to atheist fundamentalists, many of whom post herebut it's how ancient people transmitted their "truth". It's not "information". Does anyone go to Greek Mythology for "information" or criticize them for *mythology* ? No. St. paul tells you love is a *virtue* not a god.

There are two concepts, (having an advanced degree in the field of Ancient Semitic Cultures and Languages) that are somewhat unique, and neither are original. There is no original concept in the texts that were later collected into the "ta biblia".

1. As Martin Buber (Jewish philosopher) writes about in "Good and Evil, (Part 2), the Babylonian concept of "chaos vs order" is imported and found in the Garden myth (Genesis). It's the essence of the Eden MYTH. They were smart enough to get that. Modern atheist fundamentalist are not that smart.
2. When the concept of *individualism* flowed across the Levant from Greece, the Hebrews picked it up, and the prophets insisted on ONE god. Before that Yahweh had a wife, and there were other gods in Deuteronomy (who assigned Yahweh to Israel).  

What is rather disappointing here, is that so many atheists/agnostics of various stripes, are SO imprisoned at this late stage, in the Fundamentalism
they were brought up in, or somehow think ancient Near Eastern literature expresses in total ignorance. They are STILL in the prison of the Fundamentalists they rant against. They really ought to free themselves from Christian and Jewish Fundamentalism.

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(05-29-2023, 05:50 PM)Minimalist Wrote: [Image: jesus-guns-and-babies.png?w=1024]

Now THAT'S a true POE !

Without having firsthand experience of GOP lunacy you'd take that picture as a piece of satire.  That it's Snopes verified real puts a chill down the spine.
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Then you'll be pleased to know that this moronic sack of shit is now a district chairman of the Georgia RepubliKKKunt Committee.

https://gizmodo.com/kandiss-taylor-flat-...1850474753

Quote:Georgia GOP Chair Pushes Flat-Earth Conspiracy, Says Globes Brainwash Us

Conspiracy theorist and GOP Chair Kandiss Taylor claims "globes everywhere" are brainwashing society into thinking the Earth is round.

I mean... there is stupid.... and then there is FUCKING STUPID!
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(05-29-2023, 05:22 PM)Kathryn E Wrote: I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement.  Like, do you actually know what it is to refrain from judging others or things, even things which you disagree with or don't understand?  I don't.  I also think the Bible is pretty advanced advanced when it comes to its understanding of love.  If you understand love as the absence of harm, and that God is this love ("God is love"), then you can reason that this God is never actually trying to hurt you or anyone.  Forgiving others unconditionally is also a radical concept 1,000 years ago or today.  How many people here can say that they have forgiven everyone in their life?

Well, this is all a bit of a word salad.

Anyway... if you (apparently?) need the instructions for
how to love yourself or someone else, from a book such
as the bible, then you've never been in love.  

How unfortunate.       Sadcryface
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Quote:I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement.


Quote:Exodus 19:12-13


You shall set bounds for the people all around, saying, ‘Beware that you do not go up on the mountain or touch the border of it; whoever touches the mountain shall surely be put to death. No hand shall touch him, but he shall surely be stoned or shot through; whether beast or man, he shall not live.’ When the ram’s horn sounds a long blast, they shall come up to the mountain.”

Deuteronomy 17:12
Verse Concepts

The man who acts presumptuously by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that man shall die; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.

Exodus 21:15
Verse Concepts

“He who strikes his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 24:23
Verse Concepts


Then Moses spoke to the sons of Israel, and they brought the one who had cursed outside the camp and stoned him with stones. Thus the sons of Israel did, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.

Leviticus 20:27
Verse Concepts

‘Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.’”

Leviticus 24:23
Verse Concepts


Then Moses spoke to the sons of Israel, and they brought the one who had cursed outside the camp and stoned him with stones. Thus the sons of Israel did, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.

Leviticus 20:27
Verse Concepts

‘Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.’”

Really?  This is just a small sampling.  Seems as if the fucks made "judging" an art form!
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(06-27-2023, 07:48 PM)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I think the Bible is pretty advanced when it comes to teachings of non-judgement.


Quote:Exodus 19:12-13


You shall set bounds for the people all around, saying, ‘Beware that you do not go up on the mountain or touch the border of it; whoever touches the mountain shall surely be put to death. No hand shall touch him, but he shall surely be stoned or shot through; whether beast or man, he shall not live.’ When the ram’s horn sounds a long blast, they shall come up to the mountain.”

Deuteronomy 17:12
Verse Concepts

The man who acts presumptuously by not listening to the priest who stands there to serve the Lord your God, nor to the judge, that man shall die; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.

Exodus 21:15
Verse Concepts

“He who strikes his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 24:23
Verse Concepts


Then Moses spoke to the sons of Israel, and they brought the one who had cursed outside the camp and stoned him with stones. Thus the sons of Israel did, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.

Leviticus 20:27
Verse Concepts

‘Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.’”

Leviticus 24:23
Verse Concepts


Then Moses spoke to the sons of Israel, and they brought the one who had cursed outside the camp and stoned him with stones. Thus the sons of Israel did, just as the Lord had commanded Moses.

Leviticus 20:27
Verse Concepts

‘Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.’”

Really?  This is just a small sampling.  Seems as if the fucks made "judging" an art form!

The entire bible (and most religious texts) are all about being "judgemental".  You violate their rules, you get punished.  If you violate rules set therein, you are reincarnated as a lower form, you go to limbo, you go to hell, etc.  

In a slight way, I evaluate a religion's level of insanity by the penalties assigned to heretics and unbelievers.  Christianity wins "worse" for "eternal hell".  But I don't want to reincarnate as a slug, either.  LOL!
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Why The Bible is Such a Horrible Information Source
The nice thing about Judaism is no afterlife…just a vague “world to come”. No hell. There are some sects that believe in reincarnation but as a human. The rest of the Jews consider them meshugganah (crazy). Lots of other beliefs in Judaism that are crap and very patriarchal but at least no eternal punishment.
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Why The Bible is Such a Horrible Information Source
Wait!  What about the zombies that "Matthew" swears were walking around Jerusalem when the godboy got whacked?
Robert G. Ingersoll : “No man with a sense of humor ever founded a religion.”
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