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Artemis: Nasa ready to launch new era of Moon exploration
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Artemis: Nasa ready to launch new era of Moon exploration
What do people think?

Moon launch

Time to go back or is this just political posturing?
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Artemis: Nasa ready to launch new era of Moon exploration
There is estimated to be enough water on the Moon to cover the entire surface over one meter deep.

Not sure we'll need that much, but the free oxygen will be handy.
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Artemis: Nasa ready to launch new era of Moon exploration
You don't think its politics?
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(08-29-2022, 07:12 PM)TinyDave Wrote: You don't think its politics?

No more than the original Moon race.
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(08-29-2022, 07:07 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: There is estimated to be enough water on the Moon to cover the entire surface over one meter deep.

Not sure we'll need that much, but the free oxygen will be handy.

I'm not a strong swimmer so maybe not for me
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(08-29-2022, 07:13 PM)TinyDave Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:07 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: There is estimated to be enough water on the Moon to cover the entire surface over one meter deep.

Not sure we'll need that much, but the free oxygen will be handy.

I'm not a strong swimmer so maybe not for me

Helium 3 however. 
Companies are going nuts for it.
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(08-29-2022, 07:12 PM)TinyDave Wrote: You don't think its politics?

Sure, it's politics.  I think it's also human curiosity and the need to see what's around the next corner.  It's as if humans have to keep doing different stuff or adding on to the stuff they've already done.  If we didn't have this driving force in our species we would still be in caves drawing pictures of the animals we hunt. The planet would be nice and healthy and green though, wouldn't it?
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(08-29-2022, 07:33 PM)Dancefortwo Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:12 PM)TinyDave Wrote: You don't think its politics?

Sure, it's politics.  I think it's also human curiosity and the need to see what's around the next corner.  It's as if humans have to keep doing different stuff or adding on to the stuff they've already done.  If we didn't have this driving force in our species we would still be in caves drawing pictures of the animals we hunt. The planet would be nice and healthy and green though, wouldn't it?

I'm a little bit sceptical. 
For want of a better euphemism, I think it is a dick showing contest. 
Russia just pulled out of the ISS.
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Have they rented a studio in California yet, to do this one ?
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(08-29-2022, 07:45 PM)TinyDave Wrote: I think it is a dick showing contest. 
Russia just pulled out

It's hard to have a dick measuring contest if you haven't pulled out hobo

In all seriousness, the head of the Russian space program is a repugnant cockroach that deserves to be sent into space and left to scream his hateful rhetoric there. Even Russians (what few normal ones there are anyway) are mocking him.

Oh, I see he stopped being the ass head of the Roskosmos in July. I highly doubt it'll change anything. There was this vile loathsome creature, up there in the station, with a whole bunch of Putin portraits and flags. For fuck sake, they have a bunch of those disgusting, robe-wearing parasites, also known as priests, bless the crew before they leave for the station. I watched Thomas Pesquet's first launch and it was so ludicrous. Pretty sure he was trying to choke back laughter when the parasite was splashing him with water. Genocidal, primitive lot, even their "astronauts".
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(08-29-2022, 07:13 PM)TinyDave Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:07 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: There is estimated to be enough water on the Moon to cover the entire surface over one meter deep.

Not sure we'll need that much, but the free oxygen will be handy.

I'm not a strong swimmer so maybe not for me

I've heard of people drowning in the bathtub. Whistling
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Postponed....

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/n...bed-delays

Quote:NASA's Artemis 1 mission moon rocket launch scrubbed after delays
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I don't think of it as posturing, as much as just bad sciencing. We can do with remotes virtually everything a manned mission could do, without the enormous expenditure to protect our weak bags of flesh and water.
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(08-30-2022, 11:08 AM)skyking Wrote: I don't think of it as posturing, as much as just bad sciencing. We can do with remotes virtually everything a manned mission could do, without the enormous expenditure to protect our weak bags of flesh and water.

A robot probably wouldn't find anorthosite.
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well shit they can google too and now you tipped them off.
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Launch had to be scrubbed (yet again) for an engine issue.  Better to ring out the bugs on the ground than have a catastrophic incident during launch or in space.  They will get another shot at it near the end of next week.
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(08-29-2022, 08:48 PM)Vera Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:45 PM)TinyDave Wrote: I think it is a dick showing contest. 
Russia just pulled out

It's hard to have a dick measuring contest if you haven't pulled out  hobo

In all seriousness, the head of the Russian space program is a repugnant cockroach that deserves to be sent into space and left to scream his hateful rhetoric there. Even Russians (what few normal ones there are anyway) are mocking him.

Oh, I see he stopped being the ass head of the Roskosmos in July. I highly doubt it'll change anything. There was this vile loathsome creature, up there in the station, with a whole bunch of Putin portraits and flags. For fuck sake, they have a bunch of those disgusting, robe-wearing parasites, also known as priests, bless the crew before they leave for the station. I watched Thomas Pesquet's first launch and it was so ludicrous. Pretty sure he was trying to choke back laughter when the parasite was splashing him with water. Genocidal, primitive lot, even their "astronauts".

Yep, it's time to stop dick measuring. Metric and imperial. 
I've seen the astronauts rituals, Tim Peake has written a book about this.
I respect the cosmonauts as they are truly brave people. 
...But. but. I am confused why a scientific endeavour would need the blessing of the most unscientific aspect of human culture.
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(08-29-2022, 07:12 PM)TinyDave Wrote: You don't think its politics?

It's not all politics. The people working at NASA are genuinely interested in scientific discovery and human exploration of the solar system. I don't see a reason to believe it's all politics. But I get it, knee-jerk cynicism about every possible thing is in vogue.
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(09-04-2022, 09:48 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:12 PM)TinyDave Wrote: You don't think its politics?

It's not all politics. The people working at NASA are genuinely interested in scientific discovery and human exploration of the solar system. I don't see a reason to believe it's all politics. But I get it, knee-jerk cynicism about every possible thing is in vogue.

Too often, too rabid. Aggravated
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(08-29-2022, 08:48 PM)Vera Wrote:
(08-29-2022, 07:45 PM)TinyDave Wrote: I think it is a dick showing contest. 
Russia just pulled out

It's hard to have a dick measuring contest if you haven't pulled out  hobo

In all seriousness, the head of the Russian space program is a repugnant cockroach that deserves to be sent into space and left to scream his hateful rhetoric there. Even Russians (what few normal ones there are anyway) are mocking him.

Oh, I see he stopped being the ass head of the Roskosmos in July. I highly doubt it'll change anything. There was this vile loathsome creature, up there in the station, with a whole bunch of Putin portraits and flags. For fuck sake, they have a bunch of those disgusting, robe-wearing parasites, also known as priests, bless the crew before they leave for the station. I watched Thomas Pesquet's first launch and it was so ludicrous. Pretty sure he was trying to choke back laughter when the parasite was splashing him with water. Genocidal, primitive lot, even their "astronauts".

Russia is irrelevant here. China is the primary competitor.

As with many space programs, there is a combination of national pride and actual science involved. In this case, the US dropped the ball by not going back to the moon in over 50 years. China has a clear program to go and the US doesn't want to be left behind.
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thread title needs amendment to *almost* ready.
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I support their decision not to set off what might be a multi-billion dollar firework until they have satisfied all their qualms about it.  The moon has been there for 4 billion years.  It will still be there when they are ready to go.
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I hope to shout that they learned the Challenger lesson too.
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(09-04-2022, 05:31 PM)skyking Wrote: I hope to shout that they learned the Challenger lesson too.

"Get the Charger instead!"?
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(09-04-2022, 05:31 PM)skyking Wrote: I hope to shout that they learned the Challenger lesson too.

That was my first thought: "Take your time and do it right -- as if there is a crew aboard."
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