(09-14-2021, 09:46 AM)trdsf Wrote:Completely agree.(09-13-2021, 07:47 AM)Cavebear Wrote:You might be surprised. I have quite a misanthropic streak that probably comes from the severe bullying of my school years (back when it was the victim's fault for "not standing up for himself" rather than the bully's fault for being a sociopathic little shit), though I make an effort to not let it control me.(09-13-2021, 07:20 AM)trdsf Wrote: Meh. I'm better suited to an antisocial network.I wonder if you mean more like a "non-social" network.. "Anti-social" seems a bit mean for you.
But the actual truth is no, generally speaking I really don't like people much -- I like individuals, but as a group humans are disappointing compared to what they're capable of.
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(09-19-2021, 05:24 PM)mordant Wrote:(09-14-2021, 09:46 AM)trdsf Wrote:Completely agree.(09-13-2021, 07:47 AM)Cavebear Wrote: I wonder if you mean more like a "non-social" network.. "Anti-social" seems a bit mean for you.You might be surprised. I have quite a misanthropic streak that probably comes from the severe bullying of my school years (back when it was the victim's fault for "not standing up for himself" rather than the bully's fault for being a sociopathic little shit), though I make an effort to not let it control me. Me too. (09-16-2021, 06:45 AM)Cavebear Wrote: I was a small kid in high school and there were a couple of bullies. Actually, the major school bullies even left me alone. I went through school rather quietly. They had bigger fish to fry, so to speak. But one minor bully noticed me. He didn't actually start a fight, but he had an underling and got HIM to bother me. Not much came of it. He surprised me with a punch in the gym locker and I hit him back a bit harder. End of "fight".In these matters, so much turns on perception rather than reality. I was a pretty compliant kid, quietly studious, etc. Sometime in the sixth grade some little asshat targeted me for bullying and was harassing me physically while we stood in line waiting for the bell to admit us to the building. Like you, I "broke" and went after him, which was all the more impressive since basically 100% of the other kids assumed I didn't have it in me. Through some total trick of balance combined doubtless with adrenaline, I managed to flip him over my head as if I were a martial arts expert and he came crashing down on his back. I did not even look to see how he was, I just quietly went back to my place in line and ignored him. Like your bully, he never acosted me again. Bullies are always cowards, and I had simply made the risk of messing with me too great. I was no longer weak in his eyes. Plus, he now had something to live down. But this wasn't my only such encounter. Another time some kid was following me home and hurling verbal abuse at me. I endured it for a time, then turned on him and whatever expression was on my face stopped him in its tracks. I said words to the effect that he was a worthless piece of shit and less than nothing. I recall using the specific term "swine" which is not a word I would ever use in any context, it just came to me. He stared at me a second and then started crying. He continued to follow me, but now he was begging me to forgive him. I don't recall the final resolution to that ... I was probably too pissed to let him off the hook, so I'm sorry to say I wasn't big or compassionate about it. And I'm not sure to this day that I should have been. Sometimes you have to sit with the consequences of your actions in order to learn from them. I showed him what my view of him was, that his words had consequences for his reputation, and maybe he needed to suffer with that for a time in order for it to sink in. So ... sometimes they are just thugs who understand only force; sometimes they are acting out in ways even they don't understand and just aren't their best selves and arguably deserve some compassion -- they might even be turned into friends or at least allies. My last story is less about bullies than about popularity, which influences who chooses to bully you, or whether they choose to. We had a gun safety class in 7th grade (it was a rural school district) and each of us got to shoot skeets. Three each. Most missed them all, a few hit one, I got the first two out of three. After that, to my amazement (because WTF did it matter?!) everyone was in awe of me. I was thereafter known as "Bullet". Alas, this only protected me for another couple of years because it was null and void when I got to High School. As to individuals vs humanity ... I think it is a function of whether you see humanity more as an ideal to strive for or if you assess humanity as it is. If you see humanity as an ideal then most individuals will fall short. If you see humanity as the averaged-out consequences of everyone's actions, then some individuals will stand out as having better behavior. I tend to see humanity as pretty awful overall these days, which gives individuals room to show themselves better than that. (09-19-2021, 05:24 PM)mordant Wrote:(09-14-2021, 09:46 AM)trdsf Wrote:Completely agree.(09-13-2021, 07:47 AM)Cavebear Wrote: I wonder if you mean more like a "non-social" network.. "Anti-social" seems a bit mean for you.You might be surprised. I have quite a misanthropic streak that probably comes from the severe bullying of my school years (back when it was the victim's fault for "not standing up for himself" rather than the bully's fault for being a sociopathic little shit), though I make an effort to not let it control me. People don't exist. Individuals do.
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