Pretty much as established an objective fact about human nature as any is that an individual seeks and develops tribal relationships. So, how big or small, in your mind, is your tribe? With what groups, if any, do you identify? I think we can all rule out "Family and close friends" first as our tribe, you get a call in the middle of the night needing your help, you help without asking too many questions because it's the most nuclear unit. (I shouldn't need to explain exceptions, of course this dad or that sister who is a demonstrated cunt/psychopath/neglect etc isn't in the tribe).
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Asshole.
Major asshole!
That's an interesting question. I have a number of identifications:
artist atheist Democrat environmentalist Thoreauvian introvert writer I wish I had one stronger identification instead of so many weak ones.
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TW: some bluntness ahead
Atheist. Disabled. Spina bifida. American soccer (MLS, NWSL; USWNT, USMNT, Seattle Sounders, Portland Thorns) women's gymnastics (NCAA, elite, USA) other soccer (Eredivisie [both m/w], Liga MX [m/w], Premier League, miscellaneous admin/front office/league news on social media) political independent emergency buff abuse patient (molestation, ableism) social media dependent (most of society seems to see that as a bad thing, but in my case, it's a freeing and educating thing, and a cultural identifier) music buff (drone, ambient techno, 80's/90's mainstream, old jazz, indie, in no particular order) 80's nostalgic
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what's your tribe?
If I had to pick one it would be urban dwellers. I feel safe in every meaning of the word when I'm in a giant city surrounded by lots of...other urban dwellers. I love the anonymity of city crowds yet I feel like I fit in the best among other city people.
-Teresa
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.
-Susan Faludi, In the Darkroom
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what's your tribe?
Humanist
Progressive/"leftist" Atheist Death positive People born with genetic disorders Introvert Autism spectrum Adult child of alcoholics Sexual/emotional abuse survivors Classical (and electronic) music lovers Gamer Book lovers Nature lovers Maybe some more but that's it for now. ![]() Oh yeah, I forgot "Jews". ![]()
“For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” -Carl Sagan.
Atheist
introvert nature observer dog lover cat lover bird lover Death with dignity proponent sexual abuse survivor lover of most types of music cultural diversity proponent herder of feral cats ![]()
I'm not even that. Less than zero.
07-16-2021, 11:04 AM
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what's your tribe?
Dog lover
General animal lover (NOT in the biblical sense) Mental illness survivor (so far) Addiction survivor (so far) Nursing/medical community Find a grave community (it's a website based interest group) Food and cooking community Humourist (often inappropriate but hey you don't have to like it) Bibliophile WW1 and Vietnam War history enthusiast.
The whole point of having cake is to eat it
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Most Morlock. (When on a sea-going command I worked in the enginerooms, the nether depths of the ship.)
![]() (07-16-2021, 03:02 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote: Humanist Did you just copy and paste this from Hitler's personal checklist of Final Solution targets? ![]() ![]()
Anti-Fideist*
Anti-Fascist Atheist Member of working class Leftist Reader *https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fideism
Man and fascism cannot co-exist. If fascism conquers, man will cease to exist and there will remain only man-like creatures that have undergone an internal transformation.
Vasily Grossman.
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Grumpy old men.
I'm a creationist; I believe that man created God.
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Human. And I've been increasingly unhappy about it too.
![]() “I wish I loved the Human Race; I wish I loved its silly face; I wish I liked the way it walks; I wish I liked the way it talks; And when I’m introduced to one, I wish I thought “What Jolly Fun!” ― Sir Walter Alexander Raleigh I detest groups, group mentality, group loyalty... anything with groups, really.
“We drift down time, clutching at straws. But what good's a brick to a drowning man?”
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what's your tribe? (07-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Dom Wrote: Probably you are a fellow introvert then. More than this. I mean, I am that too, but I'm starting to feel less and less in common with a lot of what "makes us human"... which is actually the animal part of us. Which I have no problem with, being animals, I just... wish we weren't such powerless but proud slaves to our instincts when we could at least *try* and maybe use our brains a bit more (though maybe we can't, who knows...). Like I've said before, the human brain may well be the most complex thing in the universe but then it's also the biggest waste in it ![]() "Beasts, birds, and insects, even to the minutest and meanest of their kind, act with the unerring providence of instinct; man, the while, who possesses a higher faculty, abuses it, and therefore goes blundering on." Robert Southey I don't even agree with this exactly, we don't abuse it, we just refuse to use it (god, all them poems I've been translating must've done a number on my brain ![]()
“We drift down time, clutching at straws. But what good's a brick to a drowning man?”
(07-16-2021, 03:22 PM)Vera Wrote:(07-16-2021, 03:15 PM)Dom Wrote: Probably you are a fellow introvert then. Our conscious mind is only evoked when the hardware and software in our brains fail to bring a distinct result. Most of how we react to things never reaches the conscious mind, it is determined by our genes plus experience plus chemistry. We like to think we are in control, but we can only make conscious decisions about things our brain forwards to us. Free will is but a tiny part of what makes us tick. That said, I tend to prefer the company of dogs and cats etc. to that of humans myself. I understand them better. ![]()
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what's your tribe? (07-16-2021, 03:17 AM)Dom Wrote: Atheist Here's a strange bird I didn't know existed until yesterday. My tribe has always been the insufferable know-it-alls. ![]()
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
― Friedrich Nietzsche. (07-16-2021, 04:45 PM)Dom Wrote: Our conscious mind is only evoked when the hardware and software in our brains fail to bring a distinct result. Most of how we react to things never reaches the conscious mind, it is determined by our genes plus experience plus chemistry. We like to think we are in control, but we can only make conscious decisions about things our brain forwards to us. Our consciousness oversees a lot of automatic activity in which it doesn't have to actively intervene as long as everything is going smoothly. That doesn't mean consciousness isn't actively doing its job when we seem to be running on automatic. We forget most of what happens as it rolls along, because we only pay attention to each bit for a second. I've lived with my wife's cats for years, and must add that I would prefer no animals at all in the house. Ninja adds a bit of chaos to every day, which I could live without. (07-16-2021, 06:20 PM)Alan V Wrote:(07-16-2021, 04:45 PM)Dom Wrote: Our conscious mind is only evoked when the hardware and software in our brains fail to bring a distinct result. Most of how we react to things never reaches the conscious mind, it is determined by our genes plus experience plus chemistry. We like to think we are in control, but we can only make conscious decisions about things our brain forwards to us. I am fascinated with communication with animals - hence likely my time training canines and also raising exotic birds. My companions don't cause any chaos around here - or maybe I don't perceive it the same way you do. I can't even imagine living without animal companions. I don't think I could. What you call consciousness there is what I call awareness, but it really makes no difference. Without it we would bump into stuff etc. ![]() (07-16-2021, 06:47 PM)Dom Wrote:(07-16-2021, 06:20 PM)Alan V Wrote:(07-16-2021, 04:45 PM)Dom Wrote: Our conscious mind is only evoked when the hardware and software in our brains fail to bring a distinct result. Most of how we react to things never reaches the conscious mind, it is determined by our genes plus experience plus chemistry. We like to think we are in control, but we can only make conscious decisions about things our brain forwards to us. Yeah, but Dom you don't have Ninja. I've heard stories about that cat. One time he ja;lidjf a;lsleej asdf avcxa sdf kfal;sdjk;kkrerrrrr
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what's your tribe? (07-16-2021, 06:51 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote: Yeah, but Dom you don't have Ninja. I've heard stories about that cat. One time he ja;lidjf a;lsleej Just last night, my wife got me out of bed right after I retired for the day to help her clean the poop off the cat's butt. ![]() That kind of thing.... [/off-topic] |
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