The SCOTUS Chronicles (topical thread)

[Minimalist]

If the Court does not overturn these laws, then it's justification for a violent revolt in states that enact it. This is Draconian levels of government control over a human being's body.

Good luck with that. Texas ain't Portland.

Yeah... there are far more guns in Texass, asshole.

[Dancefortwo]

Aaaaaaaand here we have the abortion approved Lord condoning an abortion in the family friendly Bible.  


Numbers 5:16-31

 16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”  “‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

Furthermore the Bible says.....

 23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

And then there's this little added bit of "shame on you, you bad female, you" sort of thing at the end.

 29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

  

Apparently these Texas Christians have never read the entire Bible but they got a good handle on the misogyny part of the text.

[Aegon]

If the Court does not overturn these laws, then it's justification for a violent revolt in states that enact it. This is Draconian levels of government control over a human being's body.

Good luck with that. Texas ain't Portland.

Plenty of Texans claim to be prepared to go to war with the government; shame that so many likely support the measure in question.

Interested to see if any demonstrations in more liberal cities in Texas amount to something.

[SYZ]

You know that Biden and Pelosi are Catholic, right?

So fucking what?

Neither are sitting on the SCOTUS, and neither have appointed any of the sitting judges.
You're desperation to make some sort of irrelevant point is getting pretty obvious LOL.

[SYZ]

At 1AM Eastern US time on Wednesday, without a single word, SCOTUS let a state effectively ban
abortion for the first time in nearly 50 years. As night became day became night and abortion
providers across Texas turned away patients seeking what was, according to the court’s own
precedent, a constitutional right, still the justices said nothing. When they broke their silence
23 hours later, refusing to block a law that unambiguously violates Roe v. Wade, the five-justice
majority took only 400 words to describe its reasoning.

The Texas law, called S.B. 8, prohibits abortion once cardiac activity is detectable in the embryo,
around six weeks gestation, before many women know they're pregnant.

It was an extraordinary use of the so-called "shadow docket", through which the court handles
emergency applications and procedural questions on an expedited basis with limited briefing,
no oral arguments and, often, no public explanation.

Legal experts said the novelty of Texas’ argument made it especially remarkable that the court had
used the shadow docket to address it, and that it had initially let the law take effect by doing nothing.

"It is quite striking and quite galling that the Supreme Court would allow a state to essentially destroy
Roe under cover of night with no decision", Leah Litman, a professor of law at the University of Michigan,
said Wednesday afternoon, before the court had spoken. "I think it’s pretty cowardly, I think it’s an
affront to the rule of law, and it is quite troubling about what it suggests about the enforcement of our
constitutional rights going forward".

—If i were an American citizen, I'd be outraged by what amounts
to an obscene miscarriage of justice in the highest court in the land.
So much for the standards of American jurisprudence—which have
just been flushed down the toilet.     

[Thumpalumpacus]

just like calling a zygote or fetus a "baby"

I prefer to refer to it as "a gob of goo."  That usually causes their heads to explode.

Spooge run wild -- let's run that through a marketing test-audience.

Five of the 31 "yea" votes were Republican females. Baffling. Do they think they or their daughters can't be raped? Do they they think they or their daughters should surrender bodily autonomy to the big government they claim to abhor?

If you don't like abortions, don't get one, and stay the fuck out of the lives of others. Nothing says "small government" like sticking the Texas AG's office up in your uterus.

[Thumpalumpacus]

If the Court does not overturn these laws, then it's justification for a violent revolt in states that enact it. This is Draconian levels of government control over a human being's body.

Good luck with that. Texas ain't Portland.

Appeal ad populum duly noted.

I guess the principle of bodily autonomy doesn't mean much to right-wing religious zealots. It's all about what you can force people to do. In this case, you clearly support forcing women to bear children at risk of their own lives or futures -- when you, as a man, will never in your life have to consider this decision.

Talk is cheap.

[Dancefortwo]

just like calling a zygote or fetus a "baby"

I prefer to refer to it as "a gob of goo."  That usually causes their heads to explode.

Spooge run wild -- let's run that through a marketing test-audience.

Five of the 31 "yea" votes were Republican females. Baffling. Do they think they or their daughters can't be raped? Do they they think they or their daughters should surrender bodily autonomy to the big government they claim to abhor?

If you don't like abortions, don't get one, and stay the fuck out of the lives of others. Nothing says "small government" like sticking the Texas AG's office up in your uterus.

 

.......and stay the fuck out of the lives of others.

Golly-gee, it sure would be a terrible thing if people overwhelmed the Abortion Snitch Website with all sorts of reports of church going women aiding and abetting other women getting an abortion.   
 

Additionally, how sad would it be if Go Daddy, which hosts the Abortion Snitch Website and who has in it's Terms of Service the statement that it's against it's policy to....

 “violate the privacy or publicity rights of another User or any other person or entity, or breaches any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another User or any other person or entity.”

and goes on to state that it's users cannot....

 collect or harvest (or permit anyone else to collect or harvest) any User Content (as defined below) or any non-public or personally identifiable information about another User or any other person or entity without their express prior written consent.

Gee wiz, I wounder if it was overwhelmed with people violating it's Terms of Service what would happen.   I wonder if they'd kick the Abortion Snitch Website off and stop hosting it?  


I wonder if I and a whole bunch of others should test it out?  Hum-de-deedle-dee-de-da-day.  


https://prolifewhistleblower.com/

[Thumpalumpacus]

Golly-gee, it sure would be a terrible thing if people overwhelmed the Abortion Snitch Website with all sorts of reports of church going women aiding and abetting other women getting an abortion.   

Yeah, there was listener comment to this effect on a program I heard this morning. A guy retweeted the report link encouraging others to clog the system with false reports, too.

[Tres Leches]

Roe v. Wade will fall like dominoes state by state in the next 1-2 years. The conservative US Supreme Court will make sure of that. My eggs are dried up into dust by now but unfortunately I'm going to have to talk to my own kid about these issues soon. Issues like where to live based on where she can freely use contraception and obtain all the gyno medical services she may need. My great-grandmother, her great-great grandmother, died of an infection 94 years ago after an illegal abortion.
We live in a liberal state but America is weird - we're going backwards - and I'm not confident that it will remain liberal forever and the political winds will never change.

On a cynical note, Roe v. Wade is falling because voters don't care if it falls. By voting in anti-abortion legislators or sitting idly by or not voting while other voters tilt the political landscape to the extremist anti-abortion right, widespread apathy about reproductive freedom rules the day.

-Teresa

[SYZ]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

[SYZ]

Double post grrrr...

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't know if it's apathy at all, @Tres Leches. They vote for politicians based on these abstract positions -- "I'm Joe Smith and I'll stand up for the unborn!" -- but never actually think about it until their own little Susie Creamcheese pops up heavy and they've got to figure out what to do.

By that time they've got to fly little Susie out to New Mexico or, gawd forbid Californicate, to have the deed done ... or they'll be griping to me at work about how their kid ain't moving out from home any time soon because she just pumped out another yard-ape. They just don't seem able to put two and two together, and it doesn't change their voting ... but it's not because of apathy. It's because they aren't considering the consequences that follow from these policies being enacted.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

I'd be willing to bet there's a DDoS in the works.

[Tres Leches]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

And in the end, this won't do a damn thing and the abortion law stands. It's almost worse than doing nothing because it gives the false sense that they're "taking action". These people need to put down their phones and laptops, stop clicking on Shrek memes, get up off their asses and vote for pro-choice lawmakers and vote out anti-choice extremists.

-Teresa

[Thumpalumpacus]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

And in the end, this won't do a damn thing and the abortion law stands. It's almost worse than doing nothing because it gives the false sense that they're "taking action". These people need to put down their phones and laptops, stop clicking on Shrek memes, get up off their asses and vote for pro-choice lawmakers and vote out anti-choice extremists.

-Teresa

It's 14 months to the next election, and there's little likelihood of flipping the Texas legislature. Do what you can, when you can, no?

[SYZ]

I just tried to access the anti-abortion grass someone up
hotline [prolifewhistleblower.com/] and access was denied.

[Tres Leches]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

And in the end, this won't do a damn thing and the abortion law stands. It's almost worse than doing nothing because it gives the false sense that they're "taking action". These people need to put down their phones and laptops, stop clicking on Shrek memes, get up off their asses and vote for pro-choice lawmakers and vote out anti-choice extremists.

-Teresa

It's 14 months to the next election, and there's little likelihood of flipping the Texas legislature. Do what you can, when you can, no?

I keep forgetting you live in Texas. 
I'm worked up into a lather but I know you're in my corner, cheers.  

-Teresa

[Dancefortwo]

Golly-gee, it sure would be a terrible thing if people overwhelmed the Abortion Snitch Website with all sorts of reports of church going women aiding and abetting other women getting an abortion.   

Yeah, there was listener comment to this effect on a program I heard this morning. A guy retweeted the report link encouraging others to clog the system with false reports, too.

Yup, using an untracable VPN and fill in names of, ohhh I donno, 30's something church ladies from conservative anti-abortion denominations and watch what happens.   I mean, if they're really serious about stopping abortions they'd have to check every tip they get.  If they aren't then they're just targeting poor woman and/or people of color.......which is REALLY what this is all about.  They don't give two shits about saving a life, if they did they'd wear masks.  


If one was really devious one could check out the Facebook page of anti-abortion churches, kinda get a few names and their activities (it's amazing how much private information people put out on the internet) and then one could submit them as aiding an abortion and have some details to back up the story.  That is.....if one was devious enough.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I just tried to access the anti-abortion grass someone up
hotline [prolifewhistleblower.com/] and access was denied.

I just went there, and while I can get to their home page, when I click on the "send an anonymous tip" button, it merely refreshes the home page housing that button.

When I click on the "join the team" button, it gives me "Hosting Server Read Timeout HTTP 502 — Unable to Connect to the Origin Server".

Looks like someone already got trololololed ... and I can't think of many better victims. Someone's jamming their channel.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I keep forgetting you live in Texas. 
I'm worked up into a lather but I know you're in my corner, cheers.  

-Teresa

You know I am, hon. There are many paths up the mountain. We here in Tejas are actually moving the ball forward, but it's against an entrenched government of ideologues who will not go quietly into that good night.

I'm not sure what put Gov Abbott into a wheelchair, but in my blacker moments I find myself wishing it had finished the job. The guy's a piece of shit and barely worth the flushing.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Yup, using an untracable VPN and fill in names of, ohhh I donno, 30's something church ladies from conservative anti-abortion denominations and watch what happens.   I mean, if they're really serious about stopping abortions they'd have to check every tip they get. 

Dummy name, real town, local chiropractor, I perhaps could both disinform these fucking busybodies and cause the quack some grief too. Shit, this is looking better and better. Maybe report some of these palm-readers while I'm at it. "She advised me that my unborn child would be a murderer and I should do 'what is right', her words."

Maybe the local pastor told my girlfriend that my unborn child was better off staying unborn because I'm an atheist asshole.

There's a lot of possibility here. Burner computer (which I already own) and public wifi from Marble Falls to Taylor ...

[Dancefortwo]

Some people on Tic Toc and Reddit are flooding the wistleblower website with photos of Ted Cruz, about 6 month pregnant in this photo, on his way to get an abortion.      

[Inkubus]

Pro-choice users on TikTok and Reddit have launched a guerrilla effort to thwart
Texas’s extreme new abortion law, flooding an online tip website that encourages
people to report violators of the law with false reports, Shrek memes, and porn.

Redditors said they had submitted reports blaming the state of Texas for facilitating abortions by having highways that allow people to travel to the procedure.

[Thumpalumpacus]

First false report filed. Naturally I implicated Ted Cruz.

The report page has a captcha box. Someone finally woke up and realized it's 2021.