The trump chronicles (topical thread)

[brewerb]

Here are America's 15 worst presidents as of 21 January 2025:

I'm told I'm related to one of those guys. Family tree for the win!

[Kim]

Here are America's 15 worst presidents as of 21 January 2025:

I'm told I'm related to one of those guys. Family tree for the win!

Cool. Is your forefather a near the top dick or closer to the bottom of the shit list?

[brewerb]

I'm told I'm related to one of those guys. Family tree for the win!

Cool.    Is your forefather a near the top dick or closer to the bottom of the shit list?

Our family is cetrainly not the best of the worst, but it's not for a lack of trying. 

[Minimalist]

To wit the worst presidents meme....but this belongs here.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-economy-w...ner-msnbc/

'Warning lights are starting to flash' as Trump economy takes hold: MSNBC report

[Minimalist]

Oops!


https://www.yahoo.com/news/massive-ship-...40161.html

Massive ship carrying 3,000 cars sinks in international waters

[Thumpalumpacus]

Oops!


https://www.yahoo.com/news/massive-ship-...40161.html

Massive ship carrying 3,000 cars sinks in international waters

Why is this in the Trump thread?

[pattylt]

Likely because Min blames him?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Likely because Min blames him?

Which would be silly if your guess is accurate.

My guess is that he linked the story into the wrong tab. I've done that too ... multiple tabs open, pick the wrong one, and off you go!

[pattylt]

Likely because Min blames him?

Which would be silly if your guess is accurate.

My guess is that he linked the story into the wrong tab. I've done that too ... multiple tabs open, pick the wrong one, and off you go!

Yes, I was being sarcastic…should have put the /s tag on the end.

[Minimalist]

Oops!


https://www.yahoo.com/news/massive-ship-...40161.html

Why is this in the Trump thread?

Probably because I missed. I'm still taking those anti-lymphoma drugs and that shit can really mess one up!

[Cavebear]

When Covid came along, I stopped going to the barber shop.  The "good old boys" who just collected there made fun of my wearing a mask.  So I stopped going and just shaved my head at home.  I feel fine about it years later and no less "manly".  Maybe Trump should consider it.

I can imagine the historians of the future ranking Trump as "the worst ever" but had to confidence to go deliberately baldy".  

Historians of the present rank Fuckface as the worst ever.  Certainly the most crooked piece of shit to ever sit in the oval office and when you've lived through Nixon that is saying something!

As do I. Felon-President Trump is surely the worst US President ever (in my opinion) and (I hope) for a long time! And I was an adult in the Nixon Presidency.

US News listed the worst Presidents...

1. James Buchanan
2. Andrew Johnson
3. Donald Trump
4. Franklin Pierce
5. William Henry Harrison
6. Warren G. Harding
7 (tie). Millard Fillmore
7 (tie). John Tyler
9 (tie). Herbert Hoover
9 (tie). Zachary Taylor

OK...

James Buchanan - Basically encouraged the Civil War
Andrew Johnson - Basically ruined post Civil War reconstruction
Donald Trump - Ignorant, mean, divisive, trying to destroy US democracy (my #1)
Franklin Pierce - Shouldn't be on this list. He tried some improvements like rational civil service. Failed on the Nebraska-Kansas act but seems to have tried to stop the spread of slavery.

The rest were mostly well-meaning, just not skilled.

I suspect that, in 20 years, Trump will be at the top of the current list.

[brewerb]

I suspect that, in 20 years, Trump will be at the top of the current list.

I wonder who will be writing the history books.

[SYZ]

Just two days ago, Trump told Republican members of Congress to
cancel their vacation plans until his “big beautiful bill” is sewn up and
ready for his signature on 4 July.

But in his final pitch to congressional leaders and cabinet secretaries
at the White House yesterday, he made no mention of deadlines, as
his marquee tax-and-spending bill develops a logjam that could threaten
its passage through the Senate.

Democrats have dubbed the bill the “big, ugly betrayal”, and railed
against what would be the biggest funding cut to Medicaid since it
was created in 1965.  

Republicans intended to circumvent the filibuster in the Senate by
using the budget reconciliation procedure, under which they can
pass legislation with just a majority vote, provided it only affects spending,
revenue and the debt limit. But on Thursday, the Senate parliamentarian,
Elizabeth MacDonough, ruled that a change to taxes that states use to pay
for Medicaid was not allowed under the rules.

Chuck Schumer sad the party “successfully fought a noxious provision
that would’ve decimated America’s healthcare system and hurt millions of
Americans. This win saves hundreds of billions of dollars for Americans to
get healthcare, rather than funding tax cuts to billionaires.”

[Minimalist]

In fairness to Buchanan, his presidency was crippled by the fact that,

1.  The south took no overt action to secede while he was in office.  That meant that there were still a shitload of southern legislators gumming up the works in Washington.   Even Lincoln in his First Inaugural reminded the south that "the government will not assail you.  You can have no war without yourselves being the aggressor."

2.  He had no army.  Such US regulars as existed spent their time out west killing Indians.  Even Lincoln had to summon state militias after Sumpter which led to disaster at First Manassas.

3.  Buchanan was a raging alcoholic.


Andrew Johnson was a Southern Democrat recruited by Lincoln in 1864 for a "Unity Ticket."  He was constantly at odds with the triumphant radical republicans in the aftermath of the war and the assassination of Lincoln.  It was a miserable choice by Lincoln.


Fuckface, at #3, is a simple criminal.

[Thumpalumpacus]

President Trump’s approval rating is underwater and a majority of voters believe the country is on the wrong track, according to a poll released Friday.

The Emerson College Polling survey found 45 percent of respondents approved of the job Trump was doing as president, while 46 percent disapproved. Close to 9 percent said they were neutral on the issue or had no opinion.

Trump’s approval rating has ticked down since he took office. Emerson College Polling found he he had a 49 percent approval rating in January and a 41 percent disapproval rating. By April, his approval and disapproval ratings were tied at 45 percent.

This latest Emerson survey also found close to 53 percent believed the country was on the wrong track, compared to close to 48 percent of respondents who said the U.S. was headed in the right direction.

While the midterms are more than a year away and Trump and Republicans still have time to shore up their support with voters, the recent polling indicates the party has work to do on winning back some of its supporters — particularly considering the president’s party typically faces backlash during the midterms.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...ater-poll/

[Minimalist]

Fuckface only polls consistently better in the Rasmussen poll.... a notoriously right-wing outfit which only calls people who still have landlines and answer those calls.  These tend to older people.  Generally speaking if I get a call from an unknown number it goes to voice mail and I decide later if I give a shit about what they have to say even if they do leave a message....which most do not.

[pattylt]

Fuckface only polls consistently better in the Rasmussen poll.... a notoriously right-wing outfit which only calls people who still have landlines and answer those calls.  These tend to older people.  Generally speaking if I get a call from an unknown number it goes to voice mail and I decide later if I give a shit about what they have to say even if they do leave a message....which most do not.

I took a phone survey ONCE and then got hounded daily by others.  The only reason I answered that one was because it is nationally known.  I figured out that while they might collate my answers into their survey, they make money by selling your number as a viable person to answer surveys.  It took a year before they stopped.  If I answered the phone at all, I told them to remove my name…most, I just never answered.

There are surveys that I’d love to be a part of but won’t.  There’s no way to guarantee my privacy of not selling the information (even if they promise not to).

[SYZ]

In four years, Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims.  (2017 to 2021)

The most repeated claim was; "We also built the greatest economy in
the history of the world… powered by these policies, we built the greatest
economy in the history of the world".

By just about any key measure in the modern era, Eisenhower, Johnson
and Clinton presided over stronger economic growth than Trump.

The gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 2.3% in 2019, slipping
from 2.9% in 2018 and 2.4% in 2017. But in 1997, 1998 and 1999, GDP grew
4.5%, 4.5% and 4.7%, respectively. Yet even that period paled in comparison
with the postwar boom in the 1950s or the 1960s. Growth between 1962 and
1966 ranged from 4.4% to 6.6%.

In 1950 and 1951, it was 8.7% and 8%, respectively. The unemployment rate
reached a low of 3.5% under Trump, but it dipped as low as 2.5% in 1953.

After COVID tanked the US economy, Trump jacked up his claim even more, falsely
saying it had been the greatest economy in the history of the world. This marked the
493rd time that Trump used a variation of this line, meaning he said it on average
every other day.

 —Excerpted from Washington Post Fact Tracker, 20 January 2021.

[Minimalist]

He plays to his base.  Few others believe a word he says.

Now those fucks have to get out and VOTE.

[SYZ]

Donald Trump says his administration would "have to take a look"
at the prospect of deporting billionaire Elon Musk, as the spat
between the pair grows.

      

[Thumpalumpacus]

Donald Trump says his administration would "have to take a look"
at the prospect of deporting billionaire Elon Musk, as the spat
between the pair grows.  

      

He's an illegal alien. Seize his property along the way.

Elon Musk briefly worked illegally in the US after abandoning a graduate studies program in California, according to a Washington Post report that contrasted the episode with the South African multibillionaire’s anti-immigration views.

The boss of Tesla and SpaceX, who has in recent weeks supported Donald Trump’s campaign for a second presidency while promoting the Republican White House nominee’s opposition to “open borders” on his X social media site, has previously maintained that his transition from student to entrepreneur was a “legal grey area”.

But the Washington Post reported Saturday that the world’s wealthiest individual was almost certainly working in the US without correct authorization for a period in 1995 after he dropped out of Stanford University to work on his debut company, Zip2, which sold for about $300m four years later.

Legal experts said foreign students cannot drop out of school to build a company even if they are not getting paid. The Post also noted that – prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks agains the US in 2001 – regulation for student visas was more lax.

“If you do anything that helps to facilitate revenue creation, such as design code or try to make sales in furtherance of revenue creation, then you’re in trouble,” Leon Fresco, a former US justice department immigration litigator, told the outlet.

But the Post also acknowledged: “While overstaying a student visa is somewhat common and officials have at times turned a blind eye to it, it remains illegal.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2...mmigration

Oh, wait -- he's white. We're cool.

[pattylt]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-dema...urce=email

I’m dying….Trump insisted on a brain scan when his ear was allegedly nicked by a bullet…he thought it could measure his IQ

[Szuchow]

Donald Trump says his administration would "have to take a look"
at the prospect of deporting billionaire Elon Musk, as the spat
between the pair grows.  

      

It would be fucking hilarious.

[Thumpalumpacus]

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says he didn’t know the term “shylock” is considered antisemitic when he used it in a speech to describe unscrupulous moneylenders.

Trump told reporters early Friday after returning from an event in Iowa that he had “never heard it that way” and “never heard that” the term was considered an offensive stereotype about Jews.

Shylock refers to the villainous Jewish moneylender in Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice” who demands a pound of flesh from a debtor.

The Anti-Defamation League, which works to combat antisemitism, said in a statement that the term “evokes a centuries-old antisemitic trope about Jews and greed that is extremely offensive and dangerous. President Trump’s use of the term is very troubling and irresponsible.”

Democrat Joe Biden, while vice president, said in 2014 that he had made a “poor choice” of words a day after he used the term in remarks to a legal aid group.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-offensi...055069c0db

I believe Trump for once -- in his admission of ignorance, I can't see him being familiar with Shakespeare at all.

[Szuchow]

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump says he didn’t know the term “shylock” is considered antisemitic when he used it in a speech to describe unscrupulous moneylenders.

Trump told reporters early Friday after returning from an event in Iowa that he had “never heard it that way” and “never heard that” the term was considered an offensive stereotype about Jews.

Shylock refers to the villainous Jewish moneylender in Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice” who demands a pound of flesh from a debtor.

The Anti-Defamation League, which works to combat antisemitism, said in a statement that the term “evokes a centuries-old antisemitic trope about Jews and greed that is extremely offensive and dangerous. President Trump’s use of the term is very troubling and irresponsible.”

Democrat Joe Biden, while vice president, said in 2014 that he had made a “poor choice” of words a day after he used the term in remarks to a legal aid group.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-offensi...055069c0db

I believe Trump for once -- in his  admission of ignorance, I can't see him being familiar with Shakespeare at all.

I've never read Merchant of Venice and yet I'm familiar with name Shylock. Of course compared to trump I'm Socrates but if a dude from a country where English isn't primary language heard it dude from country where English is a primary language should have heard it too. In short I don't believe trump though I would easily agree that he probably wouldn't know shit about Shakespeare or at best confused him with one of ninja turtles.