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Mafia Game #3 - Winter is Coming
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(01-04-2019, 09:53 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. That’s a terrible setup, please fix, Aroura. (01-04-2019, 08:26 PM)Joods Wrote: Plurality lynching is in effect... so IIRC, 50% +1 would be the case here. Plurality voting means whoever has the most votes. If player A has 2 votes and player B has one vote, and 6 people aren't voting, player A will be lynched/lose the duel. Majority voting means 50% +1
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I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game?
(01-04-2019, 09:39 PM)Joods Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:32 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote:(01-04-2019, 08:26 PM)Joods Wrote: Plurality lynching is in effect... so IIRC, 50% +1 would be the case here. No hammer voting. Both kinds (lynching and duels) will be determined at the time deadline of 24 hours. IT's the typical set-up ini this case, nothing weird. (01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. It only requires the challenger to begin a duel. Only one duel is allowed per day phase, if that makes it any better. I should hope people play to their win condition, and don't grief, as that would be grounds for modkilling. We have some impulsive players, but no one I worry about true griefing. (Anyone remember Excited Penguin?) (01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. If someone is challenged to a duel, they don't have a choice. Everyone else votes for one person or the other. Christianity:
God meddles in the affairs of humans in a small part the Earth for 1500 years, giving one tribal society rules to live by.
He stops all direct contact for the next 2,000 years, leaving us with a metaphorical set of instructions.
(01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? I can just see it... town v town. That's how it hurts town. (01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)Aroura Wrote:(01-04-2019, 08:26 PM)Joods Wrote: Plurality lynching is in effect... so IIRC, 50% +1 would be the case here. Okay good. I'm glad you clarified that. I get confused between the two because when I see Majority voting, I think who ever has the most (or the majority of) votes gets lynched. Christianity:
God meddles in the affairs of humans in a small part the Earth for 1500 years, giving one tribal society rules to live by.
He stops all direct contact for the next 2,000 years, leaving us with a metaphorical set of instructions.
(01-04-2019, 10:16 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? Eh I reckon I don't see it any different than when two townies tunnel each other in a normal game and the rest of town thinks one has to be scum so they kill between the two. Still though I get it. I want to say dueling is bad for town in general then unless you are sure you are town and on the chopping block. At least then you know someone else could go down and it won't be guaranteed town, you still have a 50/50 chance. (01-04-2019, 09:36 PM)pocaracas Wrote: oh wait... damn these new avatars... Well, I was just about to ask you why you think I'm acting like a n00b but then I see this, lol. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 09:39 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:36 PM)pocaracas Wrote: oh wait... damn these new avatars... I think it's important to point out that that has been balanced by the fact that there's 3 scum and 6 town. That would still sound imbalanced in favor of scum because half as much scum as town is a lot when it's usually a third .... but we win if one scum is left so we only have to kill 2 of them so that's awesome! My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 09:49 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:39 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:36 PM)pocaracas Wrote: oh wait... damn these new avatars... Why? Because I can't read people so I'll likely end up killing a fellow Townie? if so ... good point, lol. It's almost as if trying and failing to read scum would be playing against my win con, lol. The most effective way to help us win might be for me to be as undisruptive as possible, lol. I really am so much better as scum, lol. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. It's gotta be the former otherwise dueling would always benefit scum, right? They have complete information so they could just refuse all the time suits and watch town agree to duel each other. Griefing or not ... it's gotta only work if both people don't have to agree. Otherwise it only ever advantages scum, as explained above, right? My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 09:58 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:53 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. Lol. Gotta be joking. I'd never grief on purpose, just out of competence, lol. But I agree with Poca that I probably shouldn't duel, lol. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)Aroura Wrote:(01-04-2019, 08:26 PM)Joods Wrote: Plurality lynching is in effect... so IIRC, 50% +1 would be the case here. Thank fuck for that. I always hate 50% +1, lol. It always seems like the most commonsensical and non-absurd interpretation of the rule is also the least technically correct and it annoys the crap out of me, lol. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? I guess if I know I'm town and people are considering either lynching me or someone else... then I have to break Poca's "No duels Evie!" rule, in that case. I'd always do it out of self defense when I can't be sure if the other person is Town but I know I am. But the duel would be as a last resort. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:06 PM)Aroura Wrote: Anyone remember Excited Penguin? Unfortunately! The mistake I made where I ended up getting in trouble myself ... only happened because of him, as well. He kept failing to add in the other scum member on our team when he was PMing me so I had to keep doing it for him ... and eventually I slipped up and added in the wrong person—it was also confusing because he kept talking about them so I typed in their name by accident (ever do that thing when you type out what's on your mind? That happened)—(I was combining alcohol and energy drinks and my mental health wasn't the best so that certainly didn't help either. Could have done without EP on my scum team! But oh well, at least I only got half as long as him for the Mafia ban. But I honestly never did anything wrong on purpose but I can't say the same about EP. Have no idea what his motivations were but he's certainly not exactly a trustworthy dude). But anyway, lol. My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:21 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:16 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? I think that any townie should use their duel ability if they are about to be mislynched. I think it would be anti-town to not use it in that case (unless of course there's already been a duel in the day phase in which case they can't do it). My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:37 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? Very well, you can have this one exception. (And now, everyone who sees themselves in the lynching block will rush for the duel instead of the lynch... Remember, the lynch still happens, so we would appreciate it if duels were to happen hours before the end of the day) (01-04-2019, 10:29 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:39 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:36 PM)pocaracas Wrote: oh wait... damn these new avatars... Funny because my first game had a 3 scum v 6 town set up and the first person lynched was a scum, leaving it 2 v 6 going into N1, yet I caught all sorts of mouth for how "unbalanced" my game was, by quite a number of people. Including yourself. Christianity:
God meddles in the affairs of humans in a small part the Earth for 1500 years, giving one tribal society rules to live by.
He stops all direct contact for the next 2,000 years, leaving us with a metaphorical set of instructions.
(01-04-2019, 11:14 PM)Joods Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:29 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:39 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: Lol in this set up I AM noob. You didn't do it on purpose! There are no hard feelings! You don't have to keep defending yourself! It's just a game! You did your best! We live and learn! It's all fine! This wasn't about your game! My Argument Against Free Will Wrote:(1) Ultimately, to control your actions you have to originate your original nature. (01-04-2019, 10:33 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(01-04-2019, 09:51 PM)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: Also, do duels happen when somebody challenges somebody else or do both participants have to agree? I hope it’s the latter because the former is ripe for griefing. Refusing duels could factor into town’s calculations for scum hunting though, so I don’t necessarily think that it inherently benifits scum if they give a poor excuse to refuse a duel. What does benefit scum is townies triggering OMGUS duels on other townies, which is my other concern beyond griefing. I agree with Mooney that duels should be used sparingly, such as a situation where a townie might try to redirect a lynch towards somebody they find much more scummy than the current top lynch pick. For example, that’s what I would have done last game when Aroura was lynched despite being easily the strongest town read from an objective perspective. (01-04-2019, 08:36 PM)Joods Wrote:(01-04-2019, 08:35 PM)Mathilda Wrote:(01-04-2019, 08:31 PM)Joods Wrote: What? And you aren't sharing? Shame woman. Come down to DC, it's on every corner! (01-04-2019, 10:55 PM)pocaracas Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:37 PM)EvieTheAvocado Wrote:(01-04-2019, 10:00 PM)mlmooney89 Wrote: I'm trying to see this from every direction. If he does do duels how does that hurt town? Either he gets voted off or he votes someone else off and gives us another opportunity to kill scum. Is it because it stops the game? you mean, the lynch still happens even in the event of a duel? "An initiated duel will always supersede the lynch for the day phase." |
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