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Concluding Remarks It turned out that there was no one here willing (Danu) or able (the rest of you) to make a cogent argument that an expanded epistemology is an illegitimate path to a reasoned beli...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-09-2026, 01:43 PM
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(01-08-2026, 05:20 PM)Dānu Wrote: I vote ban.  His threads are inseparable from proselytizing and it's been clear for some time that he isn't open to actual discussion.  Arguing with staff is just m...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 06:03 PM
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(01-08-2026, 04:50 PM)epronovost Wrote: (01-08-2026, 04:43 PM)emjay Wrote: For the record then, my vote is a 'no' to a ban... this feels like it would just be on a technicality and therefore feel ...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 05:12 PM
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(01-08-2026, 02:32 PM)Mathilda Wrote: (01-08-2026, 02:15 PM)SteveII Wrote: I asked AI to consolidate and summarize some of the arguments we have had in this thread in a way that shows the issue. I...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 03:14 PM
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I asked AI to consolidate and summarize some of the arguments we have had in this thread in a way that shows the issue. I found it interesting: Dialog: “No evidence” vs “Different standards” Atheist...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 02:15 PM
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(01-08-2026, 07:31 AM)Paleophyte Wrote: (01-08-2026, 04:53 AM)Astreja Wrote: Yes, we clearly do disagree about epistemic standards. I've long known that believers' standards do not align with mine...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 01:38 PM
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(01-08-2026, 04:17 AM)Rhythmcs Wrote: (01-07-2026, 07:12 PM)Paleophyte Wrote: It isn't a suggestion. It's the very definition of the 'brain in a vat' problem.As a proposition meant to cast doubt o...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 01:02 PM
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(01-07-2026, 07:12 PM)Paleophyte Wrote: (01-07-2026, 03:58 PM)SteveII Wrote: A truth-apt statement is simply a statement that can be true or false. It is entirely irrelevant whether you can come t...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-08-2026, 12:50 PM
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(01-07-2026, 03:45 PM)Paleophyte Wrote: (01-07-2026, 01:13 PM)SteveII Wrote: "I am not a brain in a vat" is a truth-apt statement.  How is it falsifiable exactly? It isn't a truth-apt statement. B...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 03:58 PM
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(01-07-2026, 01:55 PM)Rhythmcs Wrote: (01-07-2026, 01:13 PM)SteveII Wrote: "I am not a brain in a vat" is a truth-apt statement.  How is it falsifiable exactly? By looking for the vat you numpty. ...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 03:05 PM
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(01-07-2026, 02:59 AM)Astreja Wrote: (01-06-2026, 07:42 PM)SteveII Wrote: In many areas for our life, beliefs are defended at the general level by abductive and probabilistic reasoning rather than...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 02:57 PM
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(01-07-2026, 12:37 AM)emjay Wrote: Just out of curiosity @SteveII, would you consider playing a game of Mafia on this site? One hasn't been played in years but LastPoet's been trying to set one up r...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 01:25 PM
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(01-06-2026, 11:23 PM)pattylt Wrote: “ So, what are the right epistemic tools that would count toward a cumulative case for rational belief in God in the particulars and WHY?” Would you be so kind ...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 01:15 PM
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(01-07-2026, 12:28 AM)Rhythmcs Wrote: (01-06-2026, 07:42 PM)SteveII Wrote: Rhythmcs seemed to think that every truth-apt proposition has a negation and is therefore falsifiable. That's simply not ...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-07-2026, 01:13 PM
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(01-04-2026, 05:42 PM)Dānu Wrote: (01-04-2026, 05:15 PM)SteveII Wrote: None of this guarantees theism is true; it does says that falsifiability is not plausibly the sole gatekeeper for rational be...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-06-2026, 07:42 PM
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(01-05-2026, 07:46 PM)Astreja Wrote: (01-05-2026, 04:09 PM)SteveII Wrote: More than a little ironic is that that last sentence is itself a completely philosophical claim. Even more so because the ...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-05-2026, 08:26 PM
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(01-05-2026, 07:06 PM)pattylt Wrote: While I don't understand all the philosophical stuff, I am somewhat following what Steve is trying to say.  I don’t agree with much of it but, I’m trying to unde...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-05-2026, 07:18 PM
    Thread: Falsifiability and the God Question: Category Error?
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(01-04-2026, 05:42 PM)Dānu Wrote: (01-04-2026, 05:15 PM)SteveII Wrote: None of this guarantees theism is true; it does says that falsifiability is not plausibly the sole gatekeeper for rational be...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-05-2026, 06:31 PM
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(01-05-2026, 01:35 AM)Astreja Wrote: (01-04-2026, 05:36 PM)SteveII Wrote: Did you comprehend anything I said since the OP? does not seem like it. Did you waste your time making irrelevant points?...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-05-2026, 04:09 PM
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(01-05-2026, 12:20 PM)Deesse23 Wrote: (01-05-2026, 11:53 AM)emjay Wrote: Frankly it has always baffled me how theists can get any real comfort, confidence, or peace of mind from retreating into an...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-05-2026, 03:04 PM
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(01-03-2026, 03:56 AM)Astreja Wrote: (01-02-2026, 01:30 PM)SteveII Wrote: My point is (and has been) that you don't use the same epistemic tools for everything you believe to be a rational belief....
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-04-2026, 05:36 PM
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(01-03-2026, 03:02 PM)Dānu Wrote: (01-02-2026, 11:30 PM)SteveII Wrote: There is hardly a more consequential metaphysical commitment than whether theism or naturalism is true. As such, it does, jus...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-04-2026, 05:15 PM
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(01-02-2026, 02:54 PM)Paleophyte Wrote: (01-02-2026, 01:30 PM)SteveII Wrote: My point is (and has been) that you don't use the same epistemic tools for everything you believe to be a rational beli...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-02-2026, 11:30 PM
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(01-01-2026, 03:15 AM)Astreja Wrote: (12-31-2025, 10:51 PM)Paleophyte Wrote: [Steve's] difficulty is that atheists long ago answered the question in the OP: "What are the appropriate epistemic too...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 01-02-2026, 01:30 PM
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(12-31-2025, 02:39 AM)Rhythmcs Wrote: (12-31-2025, 12:27 AM)SteveII Wrote: You keep completely missing the point that not every cognitivist claim can be falsified. You keep collapsing the two cate...
 SteveII Philosophy and Ethics 291 9,439 12-31-2025, 04:25 PM