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Thread: God can Ground Objective Morality
Post: RE: God can Ground Objective Morality
| If God can’t be objectively immoral. Is there a being that is maximally evil? Would this being ground objective immorality in the same way that God does morality?
Is immorality merely the absence of... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-25-2024, 07:52 PM |
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Thread: God can Ground Objective Morality
Post: RE: God can Ground Objective Morality
| (03-25-2024, 05:26 PM)Dānu Wrote: (03-25-2024, 05:22 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: Not a great loss.
Average number of positive things said about him: 50%
That’s 50% more positive than some of the though... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-25-2024, 05:32 PM |
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Thread: God can Ground Objective Morality
Post: RE: God can Ground Objective Morality
| (03-25-2024, 03:52 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-23-2024, 02:30 AM)Atothetheist Wrote: No. :cup:
You've determined that in order for something to be God, it must have your presupposed attributes, which ... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-25-2024, 05:22 PM |
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Thread: God can Ground Objective Morality
Post: RE: God can Ground Objective Morality
| P1:Beating someone up is an objective way to establish superiority over them.
P2: My dad is superior to everyone else in every aspect.
In Support of P2:
My dad is just built different.
C: My da... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-23-2024, 03:53 AM |
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Thread: God can Ground Objective Morality
Post: RE: God can Ground Objective Morality
| No. :cup:
You've determined that in order for something to be God, it must have your presupposed attributes, which (by virtue of the attributes) would break the dilemma. You don't entertain that suc... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-23-2024, 02:30 AM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-22-2024, 06:18 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-22-2024, 05:18 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: Are you saying that God *couldn’t* make a less undesirable punishment for people who aren’t saved through Jesus?
It ... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-22-2024, 07:06 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-22-2024, 04:43 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-22-2024, 02:48 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: You missed my point entirely and numerously.
By “offers” I was talking about any and all direct commands from God t... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-22-2024, 05:18 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-21-2024, 08:17 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-20-2024, 03:57 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: You keep drawing back curtains for "Gotchas!" that don't exist. However, it seems I struck some sort of a nerve. I wa... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-22-2024, 02:48 PM |
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Thread: Attention whore
Post: RE: Attention whore
| (03-18-2024, 11:15 AM)AutisticWill Wrote: (03-18-2024, 11:13 AM)Gwaithmir Wrote: Suggest that he check himself for Covid-19. :whistle:
I'm sorry, I don't get the joke.
Lack of taste is a common s... |
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Atothetheist |
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03-21-2024, 06:28 PM |
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Thread: The probability of the existence of the Christian God
Post: RE: The probability of the existence of the Christ...
| (03-14-2024, 10:42 AM)neutral Wrote: World organized crime has gained revenues in the amount of tens of thousands of billions of dollars in recent decades. Today, there are no known billionaires fro... |
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Atothetheist |
Atheism & Theism
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03-21-2024, 06:26 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-20-2024, 01:49 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-19-2024, 07:15 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: What if you replace the Tycoon with God? Does that change things?
Putting God into a hypothetical that violates his n... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-20-2024, 03:57 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-19-2024, 01:47 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-16-2024, 08:30 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: Here's a long hypothetical I want you to ponder and give your thoughts on:
Mary, who has recently discovered that sh... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-19-2024, 07:15 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-14-2024, 04:50 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-13-2024, 08:12 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: This sounds like special pleading. Some circumstances affect objectivity (something you have previously claimed is tr... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-16-2024, 08:30 PM |
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Thread: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
Post: RE: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
| (03-11-2024, 06:07 AM)Minimalist Wrote: One does not need a "license" to know that Fuckface is out of his mind!
True, but one does need it for a diagnosis. |
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Atothetheist |
World News, Politics and Current Events
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03-14-2024, 10:46 PM |
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Thread: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
Post: RE: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
| (03-11-2024, 04:33 AM)airportkid Wrote: (03-11-2024, 03:35 AM)Atothetheist Wrote: This is (likely) unethical. Wouldn't be surprised if their license is subsequently in jeopardy.
I doubt it - Trump... |
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Atothetheist |
World News, Politics and Current Events
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03-14-2024, 10:45 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-13-2024, 07:11 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-13-2024, 05:47 PM)Atothetheist Wrote: @SteveII
If Objective Morality is right or wrong "regardless of personal opinion and context"
Than is killing wron... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-13-2024, 08:12 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-13-2024, 05:18 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-13-2024, 04:10 PM)Dānu Wrote: I think the problem here is less that there are no objective morals than it is that Steve's definition is wrong.
I clarified ... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-13-2024, 05:47 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-13-2024, 03:11 PM)Mathilda Wrote: (03-13-2024, 12:46 PM)SteveII Wrote: Objective is independent of people's opinions or circumstance: always wrong in all cases in all places in all times.
As... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-13-2024, 03:52 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-12-2024, 09:45 PM)airportkid Wrote: (03-12-2024, 08:09 PM)SteveII Wrote: Were the events of October 7 objectively wrong?
Below is everything historic that happened on an Oct 7. There is nothi... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-13-2024, 02:42 AM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| LONG RAMBLY POST WARNING!
(03-11-2024, 03:58 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-11-2024, 03:26 AM)Atothetheist Wrote: @SteveII
Here's an adaptation of a well-known hypothetical:
If you wake up, and find yo... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-12-2024, 05:43 AM |
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Thread: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
Post: RE: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
| (03-03-2024, 11:11 PM)Minimalist Wrote: I love this. Fuckface will lose what is left of his mind!
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dementia-petition/
Quote:Dozens of 'licensed professionals' sign ... |
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Atothetheist |
World News, Politics and Current Events
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03-11-2024, 03:35 AM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| @SteveII
Here's an adaptation of a well-known hypothetical:
If you wake up, and find your organs are hooked to a machine that (somehow) sustains the life of another grown individual, requiring you ... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-11-2024, 03:26 AM |
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Thread: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
Post: RE: The trump chronicles (topical thread)
| (03-06-2024, 12:10 AM)pattylt Wrote: I actually fear the Supreme Court more than Trump…though I do fear another presidency of his. The Supreme Court can restrict our democracy and wreck complete ha... |
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Atothetheist |
World News, Politics and Current Events
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03-09-2024, 12:51 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-05-2024, 08:34 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-05-2024, 11:39 AM)Atothetheist Wrote: Steve, I never equated OT slavery to the American chattel slavery. You're using this point to somehow differentiate (... |
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Atothetheist |
Philosophy and Ethics
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03-05-2024, 10:44 PM |
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Thread: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
Post: RE: A Non-Religious Case Against Abortion
| (03-04-2024, 05:06 PM)SteveII Wrote: (03-02-2024, 12:19 AM)Atothetheist Wrote: Can you explain to me why God promoted and accepted slavery if slavery is objectively wrong? Jesus never made any cla... |
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