As the darkness consumes my soul.

[Unsapien]

Can I come to your house and teach evolution?

You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys.

Challenge accepted.

[Dānu]

Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it

[SYZ]

I pray you gain guidance from God.

Piss off you dopey Muslim cunt. We don't need or welcome shit-stains like you.
People like you make me wanna puke, with your fucking war-mongering dogma.

May Muhammad forever ream Allah's arsehole, lubricated with pig grease. And
may you forever suck off your camels and goats.   Have a nice day raghead.

[Bucky Ball]

Words either mean everything or they mean nothing.

Really ? 
Then what's your excuse for so many wrong ones and incorrect grammar in the OP ?
It's full of wrong words. 
Apparently you don't even have enough respect for the deity you pretend exists, to use a grammar checker / spell checker. 

In this case, they mean nothing. 

You did, BTW, unwelcomed, came here and shit on the rug. 
The crap in the OP is INSINCERE, and inauthentic. 
We don't care about your flights of fantasy. 

You FAR overestimate your wimpy little self and your powers of evil. 
Find a psychiatrist, and get help NOW. 
You are clearly clinically disturbed.

[Cheerful Charlie]

Oh boy! Vogon poetry!

[Chimp3]

Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life

We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain

The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name

Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am

I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all

I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe

Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound

Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear

Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory

My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine

Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you

Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril

No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all

I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril

Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide

As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help

Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it

Ahem! Are you really praying or just grandstanding for the heathens?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Have a nice day raghead.

Slurs like this have no place here, SYZ. Come the fuck on.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.

Bingo.

That's a quote from Maggie Smith.  Not the character she played on Downton Abbey but the lady herself.   Love Maggie Smith. What a treasure she is. 

Thanks for bringing up the source. I'd heard this years ago and it certainly makes sense to me, now I know who to credit.

[julep]

Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life

We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain

The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name

Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am

I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all

I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe

Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound

Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear

Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory

My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine

Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you

Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril

No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all

I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril

Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide

As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help

Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it

Didn’t your god set up this food chain in the first place?   Kind of rude to interrupt darkness in the middle of its meal.

[Minimalist]

Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.

Actually, archaeology has shown that Phillistine culture was of a far higher level than those goat herding and fucking Judahites who lived in a shithole of a region.  What they later wrote is merely propaganda and they felt safe to write it once the Assyrians had crushed the Phillistines for them.

[Mark]

Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life

We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain

The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name

Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am

I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all

I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe

Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound

Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear

Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory

My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine

Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you

Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril

No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all

I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril

Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide

As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help

Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it

That one was TLDR.  Have you heard of Haiku?  If you write a 2/4/6/8/2 of your own, I promise to read it.


What's there?
The something more.
A source of depth, meaning.
Is it out there or part of me?
Can't know.

[Bucky Ball]

Ahem! Are you really praying or just grandstanding for the heathens?

He probably went to a porno site ... now has the guilts.

No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all

I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril.

"As the darkness consumes my soul" .... he sounds like a 1930's melodrama queen, coming down the grand staircase, tossing his sable stole over his shoulder ....

[SYZ]

Have a nice day raghead.

Slurs like this have no place here, SYZ. Come the fuck on.

Unfortunately you have to fight fire with fire... as they say.  You'll know from all my previous posts
that I seldom, if ever resort to racial or religious slurs.  In this case though, I think my invective is
more than appropriate.  Link is Muslim scum, and has no place on this or any other atheist forum.

As I've said before, I detest the Islamic religion and its barbarous dogma.  However, I don't dislike
Muslims out of hand—providing of course they're rational, tolerant, equable and considerate human
beings.  Link on the other hand is not any of those things.  He's insulted me personally, and I note
several other members. He's denigrated atheism, and attempted repeatedly to "educate" us in order
to correct the errors of our ways.  It's very subtle, but it's also very insidious, and poses the obvious
question as to exactly why he's here.  Numerous people have expressed their disdain and contempt
for him—in no uncertain terms.

For anybody who wonders at my dislike of Islam and its cruel, dogmatic tenets, check this out.

Two teenage girls have been murdered in north-west Pakistan in a so-called "honour killing".

Police say the killing occurred after a short video of the girls with a young man emerged on social media.
They are said to have been shot dead by family members earlier this week.  An earlier First Information
Report filed by the Razmak police station had said the girls, aged 16 and 18, were "killed in the name of
honour by their paternal cousin".

Human Rights Watch said violence against women and girls remained a serious problem in the
Islamic Republic of Pakistan, where around 1,000 women die every year in so-called honour killings.

—Let's see Link defend this aspect of Islam.   As if.   

[Thumpalumpacus]

Have a nice day raghead.

Slurs like this have no place here, SYZ. Come the fuck on.

Unfortunately you have to fight fire with fire... as they say.  You'll know from all my previous posts
that I seldom, if ever resort to racial or religious slurs.  In this case though, I think my invective is
more than appropriate.  Link is Muslim scum, and has no place on this or any other atheist forum.

As I've said before, I detest the Islamic religion and its barbarous dogma.  However, I don't dislike
Muslims out of hand—providing of course they're rational, tolerant, equable and considerate human
beings.  Link on the other hand is not any of those things.  He's insulted me personally, and I note
several other members. He's denigrated atheism, and attempted repeatedly to "educate" us in order
to correct the errors of our ways.  It's very subtle, but it's also very insidious, and poses the obvious
question as to exactly why he's here.  Numerous people have expressed their disdain and contempt
for him—in no uncertain terms.

For anybody who wonders at my dislike of Islam and its cruel, dogmatic tenets, check this out.

Two teenage girls have been murdered in north-west Pakistan in a so-called "honour killing".

Police say the killing occurred after a short video of the girls with a young man emerged on social media.
They are said to have been shot dead by family members earlier this week.  An earlier First Information
Report filed by the Razmak police station had said the girls, aged 16 and 18, were "killed in the name of
honour by their paternal cousin".

Human Rights Watch said violence against women and girls remained a serious problem in the
Islamic Republic of Pakistan, where around 1,000 women die every year in so-called honour killings.

—Let's see Link defend this aspect of Islam.   As if.   

None of that justifies you using a broad-brush slur. Link hurt your feelings? Holy shit. Stop the goddamned presses. You're gonna go racial on him because he said you're wrong to be an atheist?

Well, that justifies racism, said bigots all over the world. If I insult you, will you call me a "godless heathen" or some such nonsense?

By the way, I'm pretty sure Link has nothing to do with those fanatics in Pakistan who murdered two girls. But don't let me stop you from generalizing. You've already painted yourself.

[Chas]

Theists are of different nature. 

Not human? 

Try Shiachat.com. 

Why? What could possibly compel me to waste my time on fantasy? It is neither fun nor educational in any useful way.

I guarantee no one will ban you or treat you bad.

They certainly won't as I won't be there.

[Cavebear]

Can I come to your house and teach evolution?

You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys.

Challenge accepted.

Following you to see what you say. Not something I would normally do, but I'm feeling challenging today.

[Dancefortwo]

I hate being preached at.  I don't care if the person is Muslim, Christian, Hindu or Scientologist, just.....just.....just...DON'T throw a bunch of religious dogma in my face.  

It's very hard to separate a person from their religious beliefs but sometimes I have to.  Link might be a nice guy.  He might help little old ladies cross the street, rescue kittens or contribute to housing the homeless, who knows.  But just don't proselytize at me! Or if you do then provide hard evidence for what you believe. That's my only requirement.  When that invariably doesn't happen the person needs to shut up and go post memes in the cat, dog and favorite pet debate thread or something. 

What's that silly Christian saying?  Love the sinner, not the sin?  Turn it around.  Hate the religion, not the person.  Not easy to do sometimes, I will admit.

[Cavebear]

You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys.

Challenge accepted.

Following you to see what you say.  Not something I would normally do, but I'm feeling challenging today.

They won't allow my email address.  Why "cavebear" is offensive I have no idea.  It was simply an animal of previous age.

[Cavebear]

Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life

We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain

The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name

Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am

I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all

I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe

Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound

Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear

Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory

My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine

Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you

Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril

No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all

I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril

Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide

As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help

Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it

That one was TLDR.  Have you heard of Haiku?  If you write a 2/4/6/8/2 of your own, I promise to read it.


What's there?
The something more.
A source of depth, meaning.
Is it out there or part of me?
Can't know.

The content of the poem leaves me uninterested, but if the very form is offensive, that is kind of sad.

[Mr Greene]

Challenge accepted.

Following you to see what you say.  Not something I would normally do, but I'm feeling challenging today.

They won't allow my email address.  Why "cavebear" is offensive I have no idea.  It was simply an animal of  previous age.

Sounds about standard for a theist website.

[Link]

Challenge accepted.

Following you to see what you say.  Not something I would normally do, but I'm feeling challenging today.

They won't allow my email address.  Why "cavebear" is offensive I have no idea.  It was simply an animal of  previous age.

It's because anti-Shiites always refer to Imam Mahdi (a) as a going to a cave and being a caveman.

[Mark]

That one was TLDR.  Have you heard of Haiku?  If you write a 2/4/6/8/2 of your own, I promise to read it.


What's there?
The something more.
A source of depth, meaning.
Is it out there or part of me?
Can't know.

The content of the poem leaves me uninterested, but if the very form is offensive, that is kind of sad.

Not sure what you have in mind.  I wasn't suggesting I found the form of his poem offensive.  But given the content it was much too long for me to wade through.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Following you to see what you say.  Not something I would normally do, but I'm feeling challenging today.

They won't allow my email address.  Why "cavebear" is offensive I have no idea.  It was simply an animal of  previous age.

It's because anti-Shiites always refer to Imam Mahdi (a) as a going to a cave and being a caveman.

Yet another sweeping generalization on your part.

[Vera]

It's because anti-Shiites always refer to Imam Mahdi (a) as a going to a cave and being a caveman.

Yet another sweeping generalization on your part.

I thought the whole point of this exercise in futility (and for once, I don't mean religion), was to prove how much more tolerant his people are.

It would appear that what we have here is not just a DOA, but DBD (dead before departure).

Too funny for words. Sadly, he'll go on believing *he* and his ilk are the tolerant ones.

I was feeling sorry for him before he showed his real, judgemental and insulting face.

[SYZ]

Human Rights Watch said violence against women and girls remained a serious problem in the
Islamic Republic of Pakistan, where around 1,000 women die every year in so-called honour killings.

—Let's see Link defend this aspect of Islam.   As if.   

None of that justifies you using a broad-brush slur. Link hurt your feelings? Holy shit. Stop the goddamned presses. You're gonna go racial on him because he said you're wrong to be an atheist?

Well, that justifies racism, said bigots all over the world. If I insult you, will you call me a "godless heathen" or some such nonsense?

By the way, I'm pretty sure Link has nothing to do with those fanatics in Pakistan who murdered two girls. But don't let me stop you from generalizing. You've already painted yourself.

So you're implying that Link's stated religion—that of Islam—has no bearing on the deaths of hundreds of
innocent girls and women?  The entirety of Link's life, his morals and his ethics are at base level guided by
an oppressive, barbarous, inhumane set of dogma.  How can he then justify adhering to it with such a
zealous devoutness as he displays on this forum?  Why does he repeatedly claim that the tenets of atheism
are inevitably wrong?

And note a few phrases in his nonsensical "poem":  Oh God destroy the oppressors... and hasten the
deliverance of your people and friends... hasten the victory.

These "oppressors" are of course non-believers, we atheists amongst their number.  And note the belligerent
nature of the wording, as it's hardly a call to peace.    It's call to war.

By the way, your accusation of me being "racist" is erroneous.  Race and religion are two entirely different things.

And as I guessed, Link didn't have the balls, or the courage of his convictions by not responding to my comments.