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05-17-2020, 04:48 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:35 PM)Link Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:34 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Can I come to your house and teach evolution?
You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys.
Bullshit. I've been on theist's forums and been treated like dirt and then banned on my 3rd post.
Still haven't provided falsifiable evidence your god exists.
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(05-17-2020, 04:41 PM)Link Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:36 PM)Minimalist Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:31 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You don't have a soul.
You don't have a brain, either..... and you need that far more than a fucking soul. Go see a shrink, son.
I pray you gain guidance from God.
You need several months in a padded room with some heavy duty meds, lad.
Your fucking god seems to be doing nothing for you.
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05-17-2020, 04:49 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:48 PM)Dancefortwo Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:35 PM)Link Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:34 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Can I come to your house and teach evolution?
You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys.
Bullshit. I've been on theist's forums and been treated like dirt and then banned on my 3rd post.
Still haven't provided falsifiable evidence your god exists.
Theists are of different nature. Try Shiachat.com. I guarantee no one will ban you or treat you bad.
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05-17-2020, 04:51 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:48 PM)Minimalist Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:41 PM)Link Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:36 PM)Minimalist Wrote: You don't have a brain, either..... and you need that far more than a fucking soul. Go see a shrink, son.
I pray you gain guidance from God.
You need several months in a padded room with some heavy duty meds, lad.
Your fucking god seems to be doing nothing for you.
Medications block dopamine receptors and stabilize mood as well. That's all they can do. Slow down the brain and keep from extreme emotions.
The fact I do so well despite them (blocking so much of my brain), is because of God.
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05-17-2020, 04:51 PM
As the darkness consumes my soul.
(05-17-2020, 02:29 PM)Link Wrote: Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life
We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain
The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name
Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am
I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all
I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe
Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound
Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear
Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory
My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine
Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you
Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril
No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all
I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril
Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide
As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help
Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it
I don't believe a word of it but as an exercise its a beautiful poem and I can appreciate its beauty without recourse to believing.
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05-17-2020, 04:53 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:51 PM)adey67 Wrote: I don't believe a word of it but as an exercise its a beautiful poem and I can appreciate its beauty without recourse to believing.
Thanks!
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05-17-2020, 04:53 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:43 PM)Link Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:42 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:35 PM)Link Wrote: You can come on Shiachat.com and talk about evolution or Atheism and no one would respond as rudely as you guys. Yeah, bullshit. You're one rude motherfucker here, why would you be different there?
You see yourself in everyone and murky everyone's intention with yours. LOL. Such a weak sister.
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05-17-2020, 04:54 PM
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(05-17-2020, 02:59 PM)Finite Monkeys Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:29 PM)Link Wrote:
Show ContentSpoiler:
Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life
We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain
The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name
Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am
I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all
I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe
Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound
Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear
Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory
My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine
Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you
Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril
No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all
I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril
Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide
As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help
Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it
@Link You have just done the forum equivalent of walking into someone's house and taking a big shit on the carpet.
I disagree it's a nice heartfelt poem I don't need to believe it to appreciate it, why would you say something like that?
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05-17-2020, 04:55 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:54 PM)adey67 Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:59 PM)Finite Monkeys Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:29 PM)Link Wrote:
Show ContentSpoiler:
Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life
We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain
The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name
Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am
I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all
I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe
Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound
Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear
Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory
My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine
Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you
Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril
No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all
I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril
Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide
As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help
Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it
@Link You have just done the forum equivalent of walking into someone's house and taking a big shit on the carpet.
I disagree it's a nice heartfelt poem I don't need to believe it to appreciate it, why would you say something like that?
It's like singing the praises of crack at an AA meeting.
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05-17-2020, 05:07 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:55 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: It's like singing the praises of crack at an AA meeting.
It's also painfully badly written.
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05-17-2020, 05:08 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:25 PM)Link Wrote: Words either mean everything or they mean nothing.
Binary thinking from a theist ... why am I not surprised?
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05-17-2020, 05:09 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:07 PM)Vera Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:55 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: It's like singing the praises of crack at an AA meeting.
It's also painfully badly written. "Poets who read their poems in public often have other bad habits."
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(05-17-2020, 04:54 PM)adey67 Wrote: [...] why would you say something like that?
Because we didn't gather here for the convenience of his preaching? That'd be my guess.
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05-17-2020, 05:12 PM
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Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.
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05-17-2020, 05:16 PM
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Link was that your poem or one you like that someone else wrote?
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05-17-2020, 05:21 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:12 PM)adey67 Wrote: Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.
I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
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05-17-2020, 05:23 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:12 PM)adey67 Wrote: Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.
I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
Bingo.
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05-17-2020, 05:24 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
The quality is a tad better than that of a Vogon poem. Stringing words together and visually arranging them into "stanzas" does not a poem make.
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05-17-2020, 05:26 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:24 PM)Vera Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
The quality is a tad better than that of a Vogon poem. Stringing words together and visually arranging them into "stanzas" does not a poem make.
It is an established style, "crank verse".
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05-17-2020, 05:28 PM
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(05-17-2020, 04:54 PM)adey67 Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:59 PM)Finite Monkeys Wrote: (05-17-2020, 02:29 PM)Link Wrote:
Show ContentSpoiler:
Dark deeds opened enough gate ways
By which devils wrecked havoc in our soul
The barriers of protection began to break
But through his name
His name which is his word of light brought to life
We remembered
Remembered there in the moments of peril
The one who is the intimate of every lonely stranger
The refuge of every abandoned outcast
The friend of who has no friends
The beloved of those who free their hearts from attachment to what is vain
The heart didn't lose it's beat
But began to fight
Cutting off all other then him
And ready to do battle once more
by the sword of God
Which is his name
Oh God - our shameless sins have distanced us from you
But remembrance of your love and grace has attached us closer to you
We disobeyed and were unjust in our relationship to you
Oh God - as the darkness began to consume
As the soul began to rebel
As the imagination began to search for doubts
And as the chaotic whispers began to create whirlwinds destroying the foundations of who I am
I remembered you therein
As the best helper
So be there
Be there in the hardship
In the intense trial
And help me fight the devils
And win my soul back once and for all
I am the one who was insolent to the Lord of the great throne
I am the one who betrayed your chosen Kings and Guides
I am the one who ruined your favors and turned away from your blessings
I am the one who disobeyed the Guiding Master
I am the one who showed boldness to the Creator of the Universe
Your stars in this sky of this world have not dimmed yet in my soul
I remember the family of the reminder
The recipients of your lights
And awaken to the magic world and sky that connects us all
By the mystic link we are all bound
Oh God Gog and Magog oppress the believers
And cause mischief in the land
They have misguided so many
And turn so many to disbelievers
They plan and you plan
And you are the best of planners
So join me part of your plan
And let me see in the family of Mohammad what they hope
And in their enemies what they fear
Oh God destroy the oppressors
And relieve the oppressed
Like you did in the past
And hasten the deliverance of your people and friends
And hasten the victory and let me be part of it, be my part small or big
Let me be contribute to your victory
My tears are from fear
Thinking of the consequences of ignoring the plight of the oppressed
Wasting my life away in your displeasure
And as the darkness gain sway in me
So does the propaganda of the dark ones gain sway
And here I am
Having done nothing for your service
Yet irrationally deluding myself heaven is mine
Oh God
If you destroy me I am well deserving of that
And if you deliver me and bring me in the fold of your grace
Then how many times have you done that before
To servants who were even worse states then me
But they turned to you calling you and hoping in you
Oh God
How many servants when the fire of passions
Became high decided to leave your path
But I beg you
As the passions and those animal fires wreak havoc in my soul
To not let me abandon your path of guidance
And lead me back to the pond of your Prophet
And make me die on the creed of Mohamad
The beloved doctor of my heart
And save me through the love of Ali I have so fought for
And hold on to in the darkest moment of peril
No more evil deeds
I am sick of them
My Lord
Free me of them all
I have nothing
Neither this world
Nor the next
Nor You
But Here I am praying
I am asking
I am holding to your handhold in this moment of peril
Make me one who devotes his life to you
And not waste in extravagance and pleasures that will disappear
But rather make me strive in your path
And let me be guided by the means you guide who you guide
As the darkness begins to consume
Trying to make beautiful what is ugly
And make ugly what is beautiful
Confuse me from right and wrong
And seek to make murky what you clarified to me
As the desires call to rebellion
I see my soul crashing away from your straight path
So here I am calling you
Seeking your Help
Give me power from your holy spirit
And Save me by it
@Link You have just done the forum equivalent of walking into someone's house and taking a big shit on the carpet.
I disagree it's a nice heartfelt poem I don't need to believe it to appreciate it, why would you say something like that?
It's really badly written and presented in the wrong venue to the wrong audience.
Nice? You have got to be kidding.
Heartfelt? More like religious masturbation in public.
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05-17-2020, 05:31 PM
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(05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:12 PM)adey67 Wrote: Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.
I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
OK I can see where you're coming from but for me it's just not that big of a deal it may have something to do with having very significant mental health issues myself so I can identify with the poster. I do get your point though and I appreciate you explaining it.
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05-17-2020, 05:36 PM
As the darkness consumes my soul.
(05-17-2020, 05:23 PM)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:12 PM)adey67 Wrote: Well call me a philistine but I thought it was OK, it wasn't offensive so I don't see the problem.
I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
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That's a quote from Maggie Smith. Not the character she played on Downton Abbey but the lady herself. Love Maggie Smith. What a treasure she is.
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05-17-2020, 05:38 PM
As the darkness consumes my soul.
Asshole creatards don't have enough venues? Evidently they have to preach everywhere. Must be tough to take a shit around certain people.
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05-17-2020, 05:39 PM
As the darkness consumes my soul.
(05-17-2020, 05:24 PM)Vera Wrote: (05-17-2020, 05:21 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm not commenting on the quality or lack thereof. I consider preaching rude. His religion is like his penis. It's nice that he has one, I suppose, but waving it in others' faces is uncouth.
The quality is a tad better than that of a Vogon poem. Stringing words together and visually arranging them into "stanzas" does not a poem make.
I didn't read it, so have no opinion on whatever its artistic merit may be.
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05-17-2020, 05:52 PM
As the darkness consumes my soul.
Link is obviously tortured by his beliefs on top of whatever personal problems he already has. It's a double quandary.
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