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Santa Claus Machines
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Santa Claus Machines
A thread I started thinking about colonizing Mars.

Santa Claus machines envisioned computerized, robotic factories on the surface of the moon.  Such machines would, using solar energy, mine the moon and create copies of themselves until they blanket large areas of the Moon.  Then would switch to making stuff we want on earth.  Since the moon has lower gravity than Earth, we could us magnetic launchers to send manufactured goods to earth.  Free stuff! Hence the name Santa Claus machines. Something like this would be needed for large scale long term settlements on the Moon, or Mars.

Needless to say, we are far, from being able to create such machines.  And I don't know of any real attempts to create any such machines.  Not from NASA, Elon Mush or anybody else.  We don't seem to be able to create such machines here on Earth, to create say, large scale solar projects.  Or large scale free wind turbines from some sort of automated factory.  Free wind turbines.

Nor do we see any such projects from say, Russia or China.

Basically, any large scale and long term settlements off world in the future start with working Santa Claus machines.

A wrinkle on the concept was nanotechnology.  Which was in theory, capable of creating anything.  But has not even begin to be able to create anything useful.  Much less capable or creating large macro sized devices, say a solar panel.

It is a nice concept but still far beyond our abilities.

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Sorta like Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" but the corporate kleptocrats own all the lunar catapults?
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(03-06-2020, 05:20 AM)Paleophyte Wrote: Sorta like Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" but the corporate kleptocrats own all the lunar catapults?

And everything is automated, so no (human) beings are oppressed.  ... and it might be soulless government bureaucracies rather than corporate kelptocrats.
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Part of the problem with manufacturing is that on Earth, we have a rich source of materials, a vast and sophisticated chemical industry for example, giving us the necessary chemicals to create complex devices needing sophisticated chemicals for their manufacturing processes. In space, we wouldn't have that. Most certainly not on the surface of Mars, or the Moon. Thus the dream of say, extracting materials from the surface of the Moon becomes several orders of magnitude harder to achieve.

Thus, self sustaining Mars colonies are not going to be happening any time soon.
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(03-09-2020, 05:58 PM)Reltzik Wrote:
(03-06-2020, 05:20 AM)Paleophyte Wrote: Sorta like Heinlein's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" but the corporate kleptocrats own all the lunar catapults?

And everything is automated, so no (human) beings are oppressed.  ... and it might be soulless government bureaucracies rather than corporate kelptocrats.

Well nobody that the mass drivers aren't pointed at anyway.
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