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07-16-2019, 06:11 PM
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Facebook’s new poker-playing AI could wreck the online poker industry
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/61394...not-being/
Quote:Poker requires a skill that has always seemed uniquely human: the ability to be devious. To win, players must analyze how their opponents are playing and then trick them into handing over their chips. Such cunning, of course, comes pretty naturally to people. Now an AI program has, for the first time, shown itself capable of outwitting a whole table of poker pros using similar skills.
A team from Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) and Facebook used a combination of AI techniques to out-bet and out-bluff human players in a game of six-player, no-limit Texas Hold’em. Each of the humans involved had previously won more than a million dollars at the poker table—which included Darren Elias, who holds the record for most World Poker Tour titles, and Chris “Jesus” Ferguson, who has won six World Series of Poker titles, as well as one inferior poker bot.
The new AI, Pluribus, played 5,000 hands against the poker players and consistently won more than its opponents. In another test involving 13 players and 10,000 hands, the bot again emerged victorious. Pluribus adopted some surprising strategies, including “donk betting,” or ending one round with a call but then starting the next round with a bet. It also bluffed like a seasoned pro.
Sometimes I think this AI shit is going too far... on the other hand humanity could use a good wake up call from an entity much more intelligent than us.
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07-16-2019, 08:37 PM
Facebook’s new poker-playing AI could wreck the online poker industry
I bet Pluribus has a good poker face too.
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07-16-2019, 09:34 PM
Facebook’s new poker-playing AI could wreck the online poker industry
I'm sure the Russian online "gaming" sites will survive. There's no element of chance there.
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07-16-2019, 09:35 PM
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07-16-2019, 10:10 PM
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There will never be AI so good it can beat our best Russian Roulette players.
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07-16-2019, 10:12 PM
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07-16-2019, 10:34 PM
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(07-16-2019, 10:10 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote: There will never be AI so good it can beat our best Russian Roulette players.
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(07-16-2019, 10:10 PM)jerry mcmasters Wrote: There will never be AI so good it can beat our best Russian Roulette players.
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07-17-2019, 06:05 AM
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(07-16-2019, 08:37 PM)Alan V Wrote: I bet Pluribus has a good poker face too.
Good morning Alan. Do you wanna play poker?
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07-17-2019, 12:54 PM
Facebook’s new poker-playing AI could wreck the online poker industry
Online and TV gambling is a real problem in the UK and has ruined thousands of lives if it gets messed up and ruined then it gets a from me, I've never understood the attraction myself, I don't even do the lottery.
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07-17-2019, 01:01 PM
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I never learned how to play poker.
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07-17-2019, 07:48 PM
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07-17-2019, 08:13 PM
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(07-17-2019, 07:48 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
Hello Dr Falken
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07-17-2019, 10:45 PM
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(07-17-2019, 07:48 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
Thermonuclear Hold 'em?
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07-17-2019, 10:48 PM
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Facebook’s new poker-playing AI could wreck the online poker industry
The average player has also improved a lot over the years. You can't make the profit you used to be able to back when online poker was really big. It's a lot harder to beat the rake nowadays anyway.
Even with the AI thing aside, the real money in poker is going to be in offline poker now. The AI thing is just the icing on the cake.
The rake is even higher, usually, offline .... but the players are, on average, so much weaker that it's a lot more beatable.
During the poker boom online poker was so popular that you'd have a great number of completely new players playing the game and they'd be soooooooooo terrible. AND the rake was lower than it is now.
I remember making a good profit, tripling my money, back in like 2007 when I only really knew the basics because there were just so many players that were new to the game and didn't even know the basics.
And I was playing at extremely low stakes and multi-tabling .... it took me a long while but I slowly built up this profit.
If I played at that level in today's online poker I'd get absolutely destroyed ... not just by any decent player but by even the mediocre poker bots.
It may actually be easier to beat online poker at the higher stakes .... as long as the online casino is able to detect and remove enough bots and as long as you're a very strong player. Because even though the standard of play is a lot higher in the higher stakes there's always plenty of recreational players at all levels. And the interesting thing is that the rake is always proportionally lower the higher the stakes.
But I definitely don't have the bankroll for high stakes lol. Not even for the minimum deposit if I had the most amazing first run lol.
At the end of the day: The only solution to superhuman bots playing poker is superhuman bot cops that detect and arrest the illegal bots, lol.
Like, the only way to stop more and more dangerous computer viruses is more and more powerful anti-viruses.
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