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Domestic Violence in Australia - Male Victims
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Domestic Violence in Australia - Male Victims
According to the ABC Australia news this morning 24/5, there have been 21 female deaths here in
Australia due to domestic violence perpetrated by male partners, spouses, boyfriends, or other
male family members.

Family violence inquiry leaves more questions than it answers.

"At the time of writing, 21 women have been killed by a violent act in the 21 weeks since the start
of the year. That's according to the bluntly-named research project Counting Dead Women, which
recorded 19 deaths for the same period last year."

According to the Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC), on average, one woman a week is murdered
by her current or former partner.  The 2017 National Homicide Monitoring Program report by the AIC
showed that over a 2-year period from 2012-13 to 2013-14, there were 99 female victims of intimate
partner homicide. Women continue to be over-represented [?] as victims of intimate partner homicide,
accounting for 79% [?] of all intimate partner homicides.

Okay... those are the cold hard facts of domestic violence here in Australia, supported by verified statistics
from all states, and of course should be regarded as deplorable in a purportedly socially enlightened 21st
century Western society.

But... what about male domestic violence deaths in Australia?

Well, yes there have been this year, also in the first 21 weeks of 2020.

Included below are all Australian male victims of a domestic violence related  death—that being a male
killed by a former or current partner or spouse,  girlfriend, housemate, or family member with  intention
to harm or kill using violence:

• Veton Musai (29) Jan 1st
• Mark Ward (55) Jan 24th
• Daniel Surtees (36) Jan 26th
• Jari Wise (26) Feb 28th
• Unnamed (26) Feb 28th (Nanango, QLD)
• Noel Joseph Taylor (59) Mar 8th
• Anthony Beck (42) Mar 14th
• Paul Hughes (77) Mar 21st
• Unnamed (63) Mar 25th (Gold Coast QLD)
• Michael Wayne Taylor (65) April 28th
• Frank Puglia (59) May 19th

So... we have 21 female deaths and 11 male deaths attributed to domestic violence, which equates to
one male death for every two female deaths.  The vast majority (94%) of perpetrators of intimate partner
violence against males are female, (which reflects the fact that the vast majority of intimate relationships
are heterosexual). Males make up a significant proportion of victims of family and sexual violence, yet
are excluded from government anti-violence programs. And one male is a victim of domestic homicide
every 10 days in Australia.  Historically, government policies have been based on the assumption that
the vast majority of perpetrators are male and the vast majority of victims are female, and the policies
of current governments are still based on this erroneous position.

This is a confirmed story from one male victim of domestic violence, "John":

"I have been a victim of countless attacks by more than one woman but mostly my current partner.
In the last incident she smashed a pot plant on my back dislocating my shoulder while I was curled
up on the ground. She then beat and kicked me until I ran upstairs and called the police but she
pulled the phone cord out of the wall. A call registered at the station and a police car came. She
saw it out the front and began punching herself in the face. The police thought I did it and didn't
believe I was the victim. I lost custody of our son and fear for his life every day. This was all because
I didn't order pineapple on her vegetarian pizza.
"

Much international research demonstrates that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive,
than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. For a bibliography examining 286
investigations with an aggregate sample size of 371,600 see http://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
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I guess that the dichotomy will resolve itself eventually. I cured my wife of kicking me by kicking her back the first time she did it. We had a discussion about respect and physical violence after that. Then again, I'd been in enough fights growing up that I knew that tolerating the bullies would only escalate the issue. Some women rely on the fact that guys have been trained to not hurt them.

ETA- at the time, I could dead-lift over 300 pounds and lift automatic transmissions and put them in lying on my back without a jack, and my wife weighed (at the time 98 pounds). I'm far from a bully, but I don't take abuse.

I'm kind of ambivalent about this report, BTW. Bruises shouldn't have shown up before the police got there, and the bruises are kind of like a fingerprint, in that a female's hand bones are finer that a man's, and closer together. Seems like some shoddy detective work, to be honest. I hope that guy didn't go to prison over it. If I hit someone with one of my ham-hands, it's going to be pretty obvious. It's why I use other implements.  Tongue
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Domestic violence against males has been a big issue for a very long time, and is only slowly becoming recognized here in the UK and around the world.

Part of the problem is the "stigma" around it - IE the whole "men should be tough" or it's somehow "funny" to be beaten up by a women or mentally/financially/other forms of abusive actions for that matter. Because of that many men are afraid to say/do anything through fear of ridicule from other men/people.

A documentary was shown here recently where a male victim was being beaten, mentally abused, financially abused [he earned all the money, yet was never allowed to see it/buy literally anything] and even starved by her as well. He finally did reach out when the Police officer who had attended spotted the signs of abuse and finally got him to admit he was being abused. She was later arrested and jailed for her actions.
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(05-26-2020, 08:24 AM)OakTree500 Wrote: Domestic violence against males has been a big issue for a very long time, and is only slowly becoming recognized here in the UK and around the world.

Part of the problem is the "stigma" around it - IE the whole "men should be tough" or it's somehow "funny" to be beaten up by a women or mentally/financially/other forms of abusive actions for that matter. Because of that many men are afraid to say/do anything through fear of ridicule from other men/people.

A documentary was shown here recently where a male victim was being beaten, mentally abused, financially abused [he earned all the money, yet was never allowed to see it/buy literally anything] and even starved by her as well. He finally did reach out when the Police officer who had attended spotted the signs of abuse and finally got him to admit he was being abused. She was later arrested and jailed for her actions.

Let me state that some women are stronger than some males. And anyone can wield a baseball bat or something. And I would NEVER suggest something illegal like pushing someone out a high window even in self-defense. But if you even THINK you are in a situation where violence might occur, run like hell!
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There are tons of male victims but both society as well as trained personell like police officers or first responders will tend to ignore it.
Some because of the misplaced idea of "men have treated women badly so it is time for this to flip"
Some because they selectively focus on women as victims
But a lot because men are raised to be the tough one, who does not complain, who does not report, who is weak if he admits to being abused.
And how many men, when they actually do come forward, can do so safely? Without being laughed at by "friends". Being taken seriously.
The amount of men I know who have been assaulted by women, who just do not feel like coming forward will do them any good - often due to the danger of being victimized even further.

A friend of mine got into a fight with his girlfriend, long time ago. He was a light weight, not strong, pretty ill physically, and she beat him. He defended himself. Then he was very hurt and she called the ambulance. They went to the hospital and now guess who has a criminal record? She walked out that day just fine, he was the one actually hurt seriously and he is the one with the criminal record because the authorities took it unto themselves to persecute him because she didn't. She knew that this was a mutual fight and that she was the stronger one.
Male victims are not being treated very kindly unfortunately.

Just recently I read a guy talking about how he had been raped by his girlfriends boyfriend (they had a weird set up, kinda open but not really.) and he was turning to the internet, wondering if he should report the rapist.
The amount of fellow MEN telling him that he had it coming and he should have known better was disgusting. Victim blaming is not ok, ever. Nobody, including men, deserves to be targetted by domestic violence of any kind.
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Prompted by the current tsunami of media reports indicating the high number of
females suffering from male-perpetrator domestic violence, I did a bit of digging
after hearing a claim that one in 5 cases of domestic violence was perpetrated
against men by women or intimate female partners.  And... it's true.

In the last financial year, police records from NSW report that 23% of domestic
violence reports were made by men, and police records in Melbourne report that
18% of domestic violence reports were made by men.  For an average of 20%.

This report from the ABC Australia is worthwhile reading, as it clearly sets out
the serious problems male victims of domestic violence face.

Men with nowhere to turn.

"The reality is, right now, those men have almost nowhere to turn—there are
virtually no specialist family violence services for victims who are male", said
Troy McEwan, an associate professor of clinical and forensic psychology at
Swinburne University. "We know that more women are killed in domestic violence
incidents, we know that men perpetrate more injury overall. But that doesn’t
mean we should ignore a bunch of victims just because they don’t fit within our
service provision model. It’s not an argument for equivalency... but it is saying
there are genuine problems here".

The coronavirus pandemic, it seems, may be exacerbating those problems, as
it has too for female victims. New data from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics
show police recorded 985 male victims of domestic violence assault in March last
year, when lock-downs were first introduced—an increase of almost 10% from the
same period in 2019.
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From a 2018 report by The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS):

•  The ABS 4510.0—Recorded Crime—Victims, Australia, 2017 (2018) found that in 2017, males
comprised 43% (= 54 victims) of all victims of family and domestic violence-related murders.

•  Over 1 in 3 persons who experienced violence from an intimate partner were male (35.3%).

•  Almost 1 in 5 persons who experienced violence from a previous partner were male (18.8%).

•  8.9% of men that experienced emotional abuse by a current partner had their partner threaten
to take their children away from them, compared to 4.6% of women.

•  Over 1 in 3 persons who experienced sexual harassment were male (34.0%). Most males who
experienced sexual harassment were harassed by a female perpetrator (72.2%).

•  The largest category of increase in sexual harassment between 2012 and 2016 was in males
harassed by a female perpetrator, which rose by a massive 67.5%. Females harassed by a male
perpetrator rose by 15% during the same period.

•  6% of all males experienced non-domestic violence compared to 4.7% of all females.

•  More than one in three victims of physical and/or sexual abuse before the age of 15 (39.0%) were male.

•  Experimental family and domestic violence statistics (2015) showed that males made up between
20% (one in five) and 32% (one in three) reported victims of family and domestic violence-related
assault, depending on the state or territory surveyed. Overall, for the 5 states and territories
surveyed (SA, NT, WA, ACT, NSW), males made up 28.3% of victims (almost one in three).

—Currently there are no street-front or walk in shelters/refuges available for men here in Victoria,
but more than a dozen for women and girls.      Men only get three online/phone-in services.
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The last person to try to kill me was a domestic partner.
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